Peterson and Schryver: Slavery Was a Blessing to Blacks

[Guest]

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.com/2012/05 ... frica.html

I see that Dan hates it when people misrepresent what he said. That's kind of funny, because he is gratuitously lying about what I said.

"Those lucky slaves!" said a critic, claiming to represent my view.

That was me, on the first page of this thread. And I did not claim to represent Dan's view. I never said a word about Dan's view. I said that about the view attributed to this musician friend of William Schryver's, which Schryver quoted with approval.

I'm said to have denounced "politically correct leftists" who wrongly "decry the practice of buying and selling black people as livestock."

This is also quoting me from that same post on the first page of this thread. Except I wasn't talking about Dan. I was again talking about this musician friend of William Schryver's, whom Schryver quoted with approval. And not only is Dan lying about who I was talking about, he can't even quote me correctly in his lies. I said that it was politically correct leftists who decry the practice of buying and selling black people as livestock. I did not say that politically correct leftists were being denounced.

And I specifically said on page 2 of this thread that Dan is lurking on and then lying about that, "See, the thing is that I never attributed that statement to Schryver or Daniel Peterson. The issue is that Schryver quoted it approvingly."

So in your adolescent-level need to make everything about you, Dan, you're lying to readers of your blog about the context of what I said and who I was talking about. And I am not going to hold my breath to see you admit that you lied and issue a retraction on your blog. Nor am I holding my breath to see you address your lying and misplaced attention grab on any forum where the people whose statements you are actively misrepresenting can respond.

Lying about what I said for self-serving purposes......Dan appears to have mistaken me for Albert Camus.

Yes, Dan, the quote that your pal, the pony-tailed cryptographer, so fawningly approved of does in fact say that slavery was God's will. And since you can't quite wrap your head around what's racist about this quote, I'll explain it to you.

No other race seems to have needed to be enslaved in order for the Lord to bring its members to America to enjoy the blessings of freedom and prosperity. Despite prejudice and discrimination that many ethnic groups have experienced, the Irish, the Chinese (which actually compromises many ethnic groups), Poles, Russians, Arabs, and on and on somehow managed to stumble their way into this country and become more or less participants in the melting pot without being brought over as chattel. Only one did. That would be black people from Africa, and while "black people from Africa" is in reality a category that involves a large number of different ethnic groups, in America they've generally been treated as one ethnic group. They're the only ones that "needed" slavery to escape from a third-world hellhole. And it just so happens that this is the same ethnic group that your Church taught for over 140 years was cursed of God to be born as the degenerate seed of Ham. It's the only ethnic group your church said couldn't be priesthood leaders. And it's the only ethnic group that had a member who was accepted as a tithing payment by your church.

Your utter obliviousness to how this paternalistic attitude looks to reasonable people (about a race that Mormons haven't exactly had a wonderful history with), coupled with your lying about what people have said about issues they take seriously so you can be an attention whore, is more damaging to the image of Mormons and the LDS Church than an army of "anti-Mormons" could ever dream of being.

[Guest]

Someone should tell Dan that when you piss on the 3rd rail, the remedy is not to keep on pissing and then sit down on it, hell there might be a train coming too.

Step. Away. From. The. Rail. Dan.

[_MrStakhanovite]

Keep taking on those anonymous critics Dan, whom you reference but never let your readers know where they kind find the orginal context.

[_Darth J]

I see it as a kind of involuntary performance art. It is weirdly magnificent.

While Chap was referring to He-of-the-Ten-Thousand-Sock-Puppets, this sentiment explains why Mormonism and the apologetics for same continue to be a source of entertainment for me.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Keep taking on those anonymous critics Dan, whom you reference but never let your readers know where they kind find the orginal context.

Say what you want about me and how supposedly evil I am, but I have never--in almost 7 years of posting--done what Dan has done in terms of depriving readers of context. And he has done this in print as well. It's staggeringly dishonest.

[_Drifting]

Keep taking on those anonymous critics Dan, whom you reference but never let your readers know where they kind find the orginal context.

Say what you want about me and how supposedly evil I am, but I have never--in almost 7 years of posting--done what Dan has done in terms of depriving readers of context. And he has done this in print as well. It's staggeringly dishonest.

But pitifully unsurprising.

[_Kishkumen]

It's a pretty pathetic display; that's for sure.

[_Buffalo]

I wonder how many hours a day he spends monitoring MD, RFM, and all the other sites. No wonder he has no time to actually publish anything anymore other than low-effort puff pieces.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

It's a pretty pathetic display; that's for sure.

Agreed. It's amazing how DCP has not a clue about the racist tone of his post, particularly his glowing endorsement of (and link to) Schryver's blog with the blatantly racist post.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Next up...the good that came out of the Holocaust was that it finally spurred Western powers to carve out a little country for Jews.

Wow, Bond... I didn't know you could predict the future:

Persecution and disdain, though always unpleasant and sometimes even lethal, commonly serve to strengthen rather than dissolve group identity and cohesion. "The blood of the martyrs," observed the late second-century Latin Christian writer Tertullian (Apologeticus 50), "is the seed of the church." Hitler's attempted "Final Solution" to "the Jewish problem" provided a decisive impetus to the founding of a sovereign and independent Jewish state in Palestine.