bcspace wrote:I define "anti Mormon" as one who intentionally lies, misleads, or distorts regarding Mormonism. Simple reasoned opposition technically qualifies as per the English usage but to distinguish, I usually refer to them as "critics". There are very few outspoken critics of the LDS Church. In fact, I can't think of a single one off the top of my head right now. There are many many anti Mormons.
Who are you calling an anti-Mormon? Please name names. What was said? Please present your evidence of intentionality.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Please forgive me if I get this wrong, but the Church has always defined some words differently than the common meaning. When FAIR says anti-mormon, they mean someone who opposes the ideas or claims of the Church and its leaders. This may not jive with how the term anti-mormon would fit with other similar usages of the term anti-[whatever], but that is the definition they are never the less using. Thus all who openly disbelieve can bear a much more heinous title than merely being a critic. FAIR has learned from experience that when you crawl in the trenches you learn to throw mud.
Anti = "opposed to." Mormon = "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
And "Mopologist" as Dr. Shades has explained many times, is merely a contraction of "Mormon" and "Apologist."
Yet some Mopologists, even those higher up in the ranks, note that this is derogatory and I'll wager too frequent use of it will result in banning ad MDD.
Pahoran is the most blatant offender for equivocation of the term that I'm aware of.
On the one hand, he offers the definition in the OP.
On the other hand, he'll offer a separate connotation over and over that implies an anti-Mormon as something more akin to a particularly vile anti-Semite.
Then he'll use this game to argue that anyone who opposes/criticizes the LDS Church is akin to a particularly vile anti-Semite. It won't be hard to find examples of him implying that anti-Mormons as a group are liars, condone murder, etc. I think at one point he actually had a quote in his signature saying that anti-Mormon just means opposed to Mormons and not "liar" or "condones murder" specifically to give a middle-finger to people who knew that's what he likes to imply.
Kevin Graham wrote:My daughter turns 8 in two months. My wife wants her baptized but I won't allow it until she is old enough to make that choice on her own.
RayAgostini wrote:Dan and I come from the same era, and I think there's only about an 18 month gap between us in age, he being the geriatric We've both "encountered Mormonism" at the same time, and at the same levels. I chose apostasy, he didn't. I respect his choice.
Ray, your respect for DCP and his choice is obvious. Not so obvious is whether you respect your own choice. Do you?
MsJack wrote:Unless his career has changed since his last publications, Pahoran isn't a lawyer.
What is Pahoran's occupation?
Douche nozzle?
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
We've both "encountered Mormonism" at the same time, and at the same levels. I chose apostasy, he didn't. I respect his choice.