liz3564 wrote:I can understand now why traditional Christian sects view Mormons as arrogant. They are attempting to explain something that is considered a sacred mystery.
This is really interesting, guys. Thank you for sharing about this.
One of our priests once said, that we need to be careful about how we speak about God. The Trinity describes the God who Christians worship. Mormons aren't careful about how they speak about God. Not even the God they believe in. I don't view that as arrogance, more like, idolatry. Perhaps some view the surety in idolatry as arrogance. I just find myself crossing myself a lot. and asking that God forgives.
Nightlion wrote:Yes God does have DNA. The existence of Jesus Christ upon the earth able to bleed proves it. In fact the conception of Christ was on this wise as reflected in scripture.
You overstate yourself. The fact that Jesus bleeds only proves that he bleeds but proves nothing about God. It is all faith based to say that Jesus is the Son of God. There is no proof. Your whole Bible and everything in it is a leap of faith.
Bye the way, Jesus isn't coming back. A thousand more years will go by and he still won't be here.
liz3564 wrote:That's the thing, though. God didn't actually mate with Mary, or anyone to create his human form. That is where Brigham Young messed up. The Holy Ghost overshadowed her so that God could enter Mary's womb. No one had sex; that is why it is known as the virgin birth.
As far as who created God, it is another mystery. God has simply always existed.
Brigham Young would not like you at all, Liz. You are disagreeing with a prophet!
So, according to Mormonism, the Holy Ghost is a Spirit-Man -- just like we were -- so what did he do to overshadow Mary? Do spirits cast shadows in sunlight? Did the Spirit rub his spirit hands on Mary's belly or blow spirit air up her dress? Seriously, what the hell did the Spirit-Man do to overshadow Mary and make a baby start growing in her belly? This whole thing sounds WORSE than the Jonah in the Whale tale. The virgin birth story is pure BS -- more Bible garbage talk designed to trip people up and make them have faith in silly things.
liz3564 wrote:That's the thing, though. God didn't actually mate with Mary, or anyone to create his human form. That is where Brigham Young messed up. The Holy Ghost overshadowed her so that God could enter Mary's womb. No one had sex; that is why it is known as the virgin birth.
As far as who created God, it is another mystery. God has simply always existed.
Brigham Young would not like you at all, Liz. You are disagreeing with a prophet!
So, according to Mormonism, the Holy Ghost is a Spirit-Man -- just like we were -- so what did he do to overshadow Mary? Do spirits cast shadows in sunlight? Did the Spirit rub his spirit hands on Mary's belly or blow spirit air up her dress? Seriously, what the hell did the Spirit-Man do to overshadow Mary and make a baby start growing in her belly? This whole thing sounds WORSE than the Jonah in the Whale tale. The virgin birth story is pure BS -- more Bible garbage talk designed to trip people up and make them have faith in silly things.
You're too smart for this crap, Liz. Let go!
Paul O
Like I said, my personal belief is, I am sure, considered blasphemous.
I believe that Jesus is the literal son of Mary and Joseph. The prophecy said that Christ would come through the line of David, which is both Joseph and Mary's line. If God is God, why could he not assign the spirit of his son to inhabit the body of Jesus? He would still have the power of resurrection, etc.
liz3564 wrote:Like I said, my personal belief is, I am sure, considered blasphemous.
I believe that Jesus is the literal son of Mary and Joseph. The prophecy said that Christ would come through the line of David, which is both Joseph and Mary's line. If God is God, why could he not assign the spirit of his son to inhabit the body of Jesus? He would still have the power of resurrection, etc.
Well it seemed that you were teetering back and forth so I wasn't sure what you really believed but now you stated this twice so it sticks. According to your beliefs, God didn't commit adultery. The rest of the stuff about needing Jesus and the myth that surrounds his afterlife is open for debate, in other threads, of course.
liz3564 wrote:Like I said, my personal belief is, I am sure, considered blasphemous.
I believe that Jesus is the literal son of Mary and Joseph. The prophecy said that Christ would come through the line of David, which is both Joseph and Mary's line. If God is God, why could he not assign the spirit of his son to inhabit the body of Jesus? He would still have the power of resurrection, etc.
Well it seemed that you were teetering back and forth so I wasn't sure what you really believed but now you stated this twice so it sticks. According to your beliefs, God didn't commit adultery. The rest of the stuff about needing Jesus and the myth that surrounds his afterlife is open for debate, in other threads, of course.
Paul O
I apologize if I was unclear as to my personal beliefs. I was attempting to assess, and learn the differences between the traditional Christian belief and the LDS belief on the issue of the virgin birth. I think it is a fascinating topic, and I also enjoy learning about other beliefs.
liz3564 wrote:I apologize if I was unclear as to my personal beliefs. I was attempting to assess, and learn the differences between the traditional Christian belief and the LDS belief on the issue of the virgin birth. I think it is a fascinating topic, and I also enjoy learning about other beliefs.
SteelHead wrote:Blasphemy!!! She's a witch burn her!
She turned me into a newt!
You look more like a wee tiny pick up truck to me.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
and asking that God forgives.
