Mormon think at its Best (link)

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http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/05 ... re-therapy

Spitzer "defended his methods for 10 years. To suggest that his feeling 'sorry' somehow changes the data in any way is totally unscientific," Pruden wrote in an email to The Tribune. "Science is not about the researcher's feelings one way or the other. Good science asks a question, sets up a research process and then the data leads where the data leads."

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Very interesting. The man who did the research they rely on has lost his testimony that it was valid, but Evergreen will hold fast to the iron rod and go on 'curing' gays', even if he apostasizes

SALT LAKE CITY -- The author of a controversial 2001 study claiming that gays can change their sexual orientation has now disavowed his conclusions, but a Utah organization for Mormons plans to continue using so-called reparative therapy in its efforts to help or "cure" those with same-sex attraction.

David Pruden, executive director of Salt Lake City-based Evergreen International, is sticking with the study's initial conclusions -- even though the author, Robert L. Spitzer, is backing away from them. Pruden told The Salt Lake Tribune the group has no plans to remove Spitzer's initial research from its website.

Spitzer "defended his methods for 10 years. To suggest that his feeling 'sorry' somehow changes the data in any way is totally unscientific," Pruden wrote in an email to The Tribune. "Science is not about the researcher's feelings one way or the other. Good science asks a question, sets up a research process and then the data leads where the data leads."

Evergreen, a nonprofit support group for Mormons who want to "overcome homosexual behavior," is not officially affiliated with the LDS Church, but a leader of the Utah-based faith addresses the group each year.

Spitzer wrote in a letter to a psychiatric journal that "I believe I owe the gay community an apology," because of his study, according to a recent New York Times story.

He interviewed 200 gay men and women before and after therapy aimed at changing their sexual orientation. The majority said they had become "predominantly or exclusively heterosexual."

Gay leaders questioned Spitzer's results when they were reported a decade ago.

"The study had serious problems," The Times reported. "It was based on what people remembered feeling years before -- an often fuzzy record. It included some former gay advocates, who were politically active. And it did not test any particular therapy; only half of the participants engaged with a therapist at all, while the others worked with pastoral counselors or in independent Bible study."

The most serious flaw, critics argued, was that the change was all self-reported.

Spitzer now agrees.

"I offered several (unconvincing) reasons why it was reasonable to assume that the subject's reports of change were credible and not self-deception or outright lying," the psychiatrist writes in a letter to Ken Zucker, editor of the Archives of Sexual Behavior, the journal in which Spitzer's original study appeared. "But the simple fact is that there was no way to determine if the subjects' accounts of change were valid."

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Does David Pruden have any financial reason for sticking to the original research despite the authors hasty repentant retreat?

Thought so...

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Yep, the love of money makes Mormonism go around. There is nothing like Merchandizing Mormonism, whether its a book by a leader, action figures, learning aids, clothes, vials for oil, etc. if there's money to be made, Mormons will go for it.

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Mormons do love their theologically-satisfying pseudo-science.