The Light of Christ

[_gdemetz]

I contradicted you with facts and scholarly sources already! Do you have another question?

[_gdemetz]

Thews, I don't have time to give primary lessons here! You don't want to talk about baptism for the dead because you have been shot down about that, even though you probably still can't see it! Okay, pick out ONE more topic that you can't seem to understand, and I will address that also!

You're not intelligent enough to have a conversation with. Contradiction is not a valid debate tactic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

OK, I can do it this way too! Any more questions?

[_Drifting]

Contradiction is not a valid debate tactic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Oh yes it is...

[_Albion]

gdemetz, I'd still like a response on the Mosiah quote. I just enjoy the way you spin s things adding two and two to make five.

[_gdemetz]

Albion, among all your other weaknesses, you apparently didn't bother reading my response to that verse! It has the fullness of the gospel (or good news!) which leads to salvation. It does not contain every detail that Christ taught. How many books do you suppose it would take for that? However, it has the fullness necessary for salvation since it provides, not only the gift of the Holy Ghost which can teach us all other necessary things for salvation, but also it provides the prophets and priesthood authority to guide us in all things. For example, not only baptism for the dead, but also the other ordinances necessary for them as well as a host of other things. The Bible also has the fullness of the gospel in that sense even though it also does not contain all the details and information given by Christ.

[_Albion]

I repeat, gdemetz....you failed to respond specifically to the Mosiah quote on baptism that I gave. As always, you go off on a tangent and fail to respond. I do not accept the Book of Mormon as in anyway a valid, or holy book of scripture....likely the rambling of some poor 19 century fiction writer....but I do want to hear how you justify that verse. Mosiah 18:13.....just a reminder.

[_thews]

I repeat, gdemetz....you failed to respond specifically to the Mosiah quote on baptism that I gave. As always, you go off on a tangent and fail to respond. I do not accept the Book of Mormon as in anyway a valid, or holy book of scripture....likely the rambling of some poor 19 century fiction writer....but I do want to hear how you justify that verse. Mosiah 18:13.....just a reminder.

Getting gdemetz to address the question asked is an exercise in futility. The tangents that can be argued with interpretation is where the conversation always leads, and that's because gdemetz doesn't have an answer. Facts are ignored and blind faith is the given crux... save yourself some time and walk away.

[_Albion]

I do notice, however, that those who argue from the same position are very quick with the personal attacks which, to me, only stresses the paucity of their arguments.

[_thews]

I do notice, however, that those who argue from the same position are very quick with the personal attacks which, to me, only stresses the paucity of their arguments.

Nice use of "paucity" here. Those who argue without addressing the topic are merely avoiding addressing the purport of what they've previously said. If one chooses to state an opposition to a position with the proclivity to constantly change the subject, they aren't being unfeigned in conversing at an intellectually honest level... are they?

[_gdemetz]

Albion, you can't even understand that simple verse? What is it that you don't understand? Alma was a priest who went into a state of apostasy, but repented. God honored that repentance, and Alma baptized just as it was done int the New Testament. What is it about that very simple scripture that you don't understand?