Marvel Comics makes history with gay marriage of superhero

[_RayAgostini]

In other words,

people in another country (your article is about the United States)

who are not you

freely choosing to marry another person

who is not you

is not, in fact, imposing anything on you.[/b]

The subject of that sentence is a gerund: "freely choosing to marry another person."

The predicate is: "is not imposing anything on you."

The rest consists of dependent clauses.

How about?: "How does legal gay marriage in another country impose anything on you?"

But I understand you're a lawyer.

Two women are on a transcontinental balloon voyage. Their craft is engulfed in fog, their compass gone awry. Afraid of landing in the ocean, they drift for days. Suddenly, the clouds part to show a sunlit meadow below. As they descend, they see a man walking his dog.

One of the flyers yells to the figure far below, "Where are we?"

The man yells back, "About a half mile from town."

Once again, the balloonists are engulfed in the mist. One flyer says to the other, "He must have been a lawyer."

The other says, "A lawyer! How do you know that?"

The first says, "That’s easy. The information he gave us was accurate, concise, and entirely irrelevant."

Q: If you are stranded on a desert island with Adolf Hitler, Atilla the Hun, and a lawyer, and you have a gun with only two bullets, what do you do?
A: Shoot the lawyer twice.

But what a shocking twist, huh? Ray cannot respond when his premises are not accepted at face value, so he starts making it about a person instead of the issue he raised. I cannot imagine that anyone could have predicted such a turn of events.

I'll be back later when you get off your hissy fit.

[_Sophocles]

DJ's sentence scored out as follows:

Result

Method used: Flesch-Kincaid (English).

Flesch-Kincaid Grade level: 17.
Flesch-Kincaid Reading Ease score: 34.

The Flesch-Kincaid Reading Ease score indicates how easy a text is to read. A high score implies an easy text. In comparison comics typically score around 90 while legalese can get a score below 10.

The Flesch-Kincaid Grade level indicates the grade a person will have to have reached to be able to understand the text. E.g. a grade level of 7 means that a seventh grader will be able to understand the text.

Maybe Ray can let us know what his grade level and reading ease requirements are in advance, so no one wastes any time going forward with overly complex sentence structure.

[_Darth J]

So, Ray, how about that non-ideological, legal argument in favor of the U.S. Constitution requiring same-sex marriage to be recognized? It's really quite the thing, don't you think?

[_RayAgostini]

But what a shocking twist, huh? Ray cannot respond when his premises are not accepted at face value, so he starts making it about a person instead of the issue he raised. I cannot imagine that anyone could have predicted such a turn of events.

I'm posting my response for those with open minds, or lurkers, and that means most people but Darth.

This and the general agenda is seen to be overall implementing a marketing strategy explained in a book called After the Ball, by gay rights activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen in the late 1980s, in which a six-point plan was set forth as to how they could transform the beliefs of ordinary Americans with regard to homosexual behavior in a decade-long time frame:

"The agenda of homosexual activists is basically to change America from what they perceive as looking down on homosexual behavior, to the affirmation of and societal acceptance of homosexual behavior." [9] "Thus propagandistic advertising can depict all opponents of the gay movement as homophobic bigots who are 'not Christian' and the propaganda can further show them [homosexuals] as being criticized, hated and shunned..."

Homosexual Agenda.

I'm not against gay marriage, just a wider agenda promoted by "activists", and people who insist that I "ought to try boys".

[_Darth J]

I'm posting my response for those with open minds, or lurkers, and that means most people but Darth.

This and the general agenda is seen to be overall implementing a marketing strategy explained in a book called After the Ball, by gay rights activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen in the late 1980s, in which a six-point plan was set forth as to how they could transform the beliefs of ordinary Americans with regard to homosexual behavior in a decade-long time frame:

"The agenda of homosexual activists is basically to change America from what they perceive as looking down on homosexual behavior, to the affirmation of and societal acceptance of homosexual behavior." [9] "Thus propagandistic advertising can depict all opponents of the gay movement as homophobic bigots who are 'not Christian' and the propaganda can further show them [homosexuals] as being criticized, hated and shunned..."

Homosexual Agenda.

I'm not against gay marriage, just a wider agenda promoted by "activists", and people who insist that I "ought to try boys".

This is a non sequitur to the OP and to what I said. Simply acknowledging that same-sex marriage exists, and tying that in to a comic book narrative, does not equate to a claimed "gay agenda." Not particularly giving a crap if someone is gay, and thinking maybe they should be treated the same as everyone else, does not mean a person has succumbed to some supposed "gay agenda," either. Did you notice how Northstar and whoever that guy is were getting married in Central Park? Same-sex marriage is in fact legally recognized in New York.

I know, Ray. Let's show everyone how fact-based and logical your assertions are. You have stated that I am closed-minded. Let us examine the basis for your assertion:

1. Prior to joining this board, what was my opinion on same-sex marriage?
2. Why did I hold that opinion?
3. Why did I change my mind?

You of course will know these answers, since you can so confidently assert that I am "closed-minded."

Are there gay space aliens, Ray? Do they have an agenda as well? Is that why they probe people so much?

[_RayAgostini]

This is a non sequitur to the OP and to what I said. Simply acknowledging that same-sex marriage exists, and tying that in to a comic book narrative, does not equate to a claimed "gay agenda."

No, it doesn't.

Not particularly giving a s*** if someone is gay, and thinking maybe they should be treated the same as everyone else, does not mean a person has succumbed to some supposed "gay agenda," either.

No, it doesn't.

Did you notice how Northstar and whoever that guy is were getting married in Central Park? Same-sex marriage is in fact legally recognized in New York.

No, I didn't.

I know, Ray. Let's show everyone how fact-based and logical your assertions are. You have stated that I am closed-minded. Let us examine the basis for your assertion:

Okay.

1. Prior to joining this board, what was my opinion on same-sex marriage?
2. Why did I hold that opinion?
3. Why did I change my mind?

You of course will know these answers, since you can so confidently assert that I am "closed-minded."

Yes, I do.

Are there gay space aliens, Ray? Do they have an agenda as well? Is that why they probe people so much?

Actually, I've never read reports of gay aliens, but I suppose they do exist.

Anal Probe!

[_Darth J]

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7833491 ... on-video-2

[_RayAgostini]

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7833491/mormon-anti-gay-demonstration-video-2

That's what's really sad about all the support for gays here. It seems to come more from a dislike of Mormonism, than genuine personal feeling. If it's going to offend Mormons - then support it! If it's "progressive", as opposed to the "Mormon regressive", then shout it from the rooftops.

You, Darth, are just riddled with prejudices you probably held as a Mormon, and now you've "seen the light". In a strange twist, Paul becomes Saul.

And I know, there are lots of conservative gays. My favourite is Christopher Pearson.

[_Darth J]

That's what's really sad about all the support for gays here. It seems to come more from a dislike of Mormonism, than genuine personal feeling. If it's going to offend Mormons - then support it! If it's "progressive", as opposed to the "Mormon regressive", then shout it from the rooftops.

You, Darth, are just riddled with prejudices you probably held as a Mormon, and now you've "seen the light". In a strange twist, Paul becomes Saul.

Tell you what, Ray. You go through any thread where I have made the 14th Amendment case for same-sex marriage, and show everyone where I am wrong and just thinly disguising my desire to offend Mormons.

I'm sure your efforts in this regard will be a real treat.

[_RayAgostini]

Tell you what, Ray. You go through any thread where I have made the 14th Amendment case for same-sex marriage, and show everyone where I am wrong and just thinly disguising my desire to offend Mormons.

I'm sure your efforts in this regard will be a real treat.

I don't generally like labeling people "anti-Mormon", as I have so been labeled, and I don't think that label was unjustified at the time. You reek of it. You are the biggest anti-Mormon on this board. And in your schizophrenic moments, you'll try to persuade yourself and others otherwise, when challenged on this.

Nevertheless, continue your back-pedaling.