The Gnostic Gospel of Mary

[Guest]

The real reason why Jesus was murdered: people couldn't face the reality Jesus was a woman?

seriously?

H.

Oh wait. I was thinking of Hypatia.

I know, she wasn't killed for just being a woman.

[_huckelberry]

Considering this text, I am feeling at a loss as to why or how anybody is seeing marriage implied. She worshiped Jesus, is that supposed to be the clue? I hope not.

I see that the story sees the disciples thinking Mary could have received revelation from the risen Christ. After all the early Church had various visionary relations with Jesus. Is it only possible for that to include women if the women were married to him?

I do not think the early church, well into the second century was that exclusively male dominated. I saw a few comments above about women having only property value. I suppose as an emotional rejection of gross imbalance between the sexes at that time somebody might say that as an exagguration. In reality women, despite legal handicap, could make their views known and valued. Some early Christian leaders were female. In Christ it would not matter if people were male or female. At least in an ideal given lip service.

The view that this gospel is second century and unrelated to primary stories of Jesus is not unusual. Read the introductory comments in the link in the first post. That shouldn't be a suprise. I see no claim to being witness to Jesus actual life in the text. It relates visionary instruction falling into the general catagory of gnostic anti material world thinking. There is plenty of description of the struggle with this line of thought in church writings from the early centuries of the church.

[_zeezrom]

Liz,

For all we know, Jesus tried more than we have record of to bring equality. The men who wrote may have been biased and the writings of any women destroyed, for all we know.

Back to work!

[_The Mighty Builder]

You don't know that, Nobody knows for sure, You weren't there.

[_zeezrom]

Oh, and Liz: thanks for the quote on the Goddess. I enjoyed it.

[_Lucifer]

You don't know that, Nobody knows for sure, You weren't there.

I was there that night. It was quick. God my ass.

\m/

[_Drifting]

Liz,

When did Jesus get married?

[_Yoda]

Liz,

When did Jesus get married?

We have no exact documentation. However, there is some speculation that the wedding where his mother asked him to turn the water into wine was his own.

[_Drifting]

Liz,

When did Jesus get married?

We have no exact documentation. However, there is some speculation that the wedding where his mother asked him to turn the water into wine was his own.

Thanks Liz, what is the basis for this speculation?

[_Yoda]

Thanks Liz, what is the basis for this speculation

From my understanding, scholars attributed this speculation to the timing of the tale (early in his ministry) and also based on Jewish tradition of the day (the groom's mother in charge of refreshment).

I will have to look up the sources because I am going strictly by memory on this.