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How come Ray A never defends Kish from these attacks? I don't understand that. I've never once seen him offer anything resembling a 'defense' of this person who is supposedly his friend.

[_Shulem]

I hate Pahoran. I'd like to pound him a new one just for the hell of it.



Paul O

[_RayAgostini]

How come Ray A never defends Kish from these attacks? I don't understand that.

Kish and I have had long personal correspondence by email, which ceased perhaps a year or so ago, I can't be certain and I'd have to check. Maybe that's a question he could ask me by email, if he wants. He's more than welcome to email me so we can openly discuss any differences. (I'm off to work.)

[_Shulem]

(I'm off to work.)

Drive safely.



Paul O

[_zeezrom]

Did I say lame board? I meant lame ass board. (MDD)

[_Doctor Scratch]

How come Ray A never defends Kish from these attacks? I don't understand that.

Kish and I have had long personal correspondence by email, which ceased perhaps a year or so ago, I can't be certain and I'd have to check. Maybe that's a question he could ask me by email, if he wants. He's more than welcome to email me so we can openly discuss any differences. (I'm off to work.)

So.... He stopped emailing you, and you decided that you would be more critical of him?

[_ludwigm]

There is a Hungarian saying:
"Mindenki a maga szerencséjének kovácsa."
= Everyone is the blacksmith of his own fortune.

I agree 100% of this:

Again, DCP is a Mormon Apologist that works at BYU as a professor.

He is a member of the executive council of the Neal A. Maxwell Institute, a purely apologetic drivel organization.

Is paid directly or indirectly by the LDS Church to publish Mormon apologetic works, and even if he isn’t paid, the LDS Church looks the other way while Dr. Peterson posts tens of thousands of messages on forums as a Mormon Apologist.

Is an admitted agent for the SCMC (past, unknown if current).

Writes articles on both FAIR and NWI (formerly FARMS).

Posts an incalculable amount of messages on Internet Forums, including MAD, MDB, and various other websites (including but not limited to blogs and online news agency comment sections).

Writes hit pieces on both Mormon, Ex-Mormon and non-Mormons.

And like any other stinking politician....

He has made himself a public figure.

He has placed himself and his works into the public where it can be read by anyone.

He has written articles defending the LDS Church on open public forums.

He has openly attacked critics of the LDS Church on open public forums.

He has attacked critics of the LDS Church in private emails, and then had those emails published on Mormon Apologetic Sites (see SHIELDS).

He has registered on Social Networking sites where his actions can be publicly recorded.

God, the douche bag even has his own separate Facebook page so people can "Like" him.

I have to respect you Shades because it is your board and your rules. But DCP in this regard, this image, and most of his images which are posted all over the Internet just make DCP a public - targetable figure. Something that he loves.

Especially "like any other stinking politician"....

Another H. saying (my rough translation, not found in the '750 Hungarian proverbs'):
"Aki kurvának áll ne csodálkozzon, ha megbasszák."
= If you are a whore, don't be surprised if you will be screwed.

[_Dr. Shades]

I hate Pahoran. I'd like to pound him a new one just for the hell of it.

What does Pahoran have to do with this thread?

[_Chap]

But this is a board about discussing a religion, and that religion is, well, Mormonism. Part of that discussion necessarily involves certain people - of whom DCP is the chief - who have well-known and deliberately cultivated public personas, and effectively, work for church institutions. Their behavior, and its alignment (or lack of it) with the standards they proclaim is an essential part of the discussion that takes place here[.]

Trust me, I understand where you're coming from. ....

I am pretty happy to continue doing just that, so long as we don't end up in a situation where the rules boil down to matters of taste, or even matters of friendship. I don't think we are there yet, and I am pretty sure we won't be there in the future, so long as we all get to discuss these matters openly whenever they come up.

[_Yoda]

Either we have censorship or we don't. I believe Liz's friendship with Dan has influenced her judgment. No, I don't believe the story as it's being told. Liz, in my books, is untrustworthy when it comes to moderation and her intents.

I'd really like to hear how posting a picture of Dan's 'mistake' can do serious harm to his career. I mean, this pic is now floating around Facebook, for god's sake, as is Dan's response.

I have little sympathy for a man who engages in or supports ad hominem attacks on those he deems critics of the Church. If this misstep damages his ability to be taken seriously in that regard, the world is better for it. At least he might think twice about saying crap that damages the reputation of others.

It is interesting how I am the one who is singled out here and not Shades. I tried to be good-humored about your rude comment, but it is clear there was malice in it.

Why is it that I am being unfair in my Moderating tactics but Shades is not?

Were you aware that we were both actioning those threads at the same time, the same way?