Our beloved nevermos

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Re: Our beloved nevermos

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Chap wrote:
zeezrom wrote:... the dear chap ....


Why, that is really kind of you.

Yeah, uh... I meant to do that. :)
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Kishkumen wrote:why me has always been a great barometer for kindness, fairness, and wisdom for me, so long as I remember which side of the meter he resides on. It's really not that difficult to do.

I included Why Me because even though I very much dislike much of what comes off his fingertips, he still provides us the balance from an outsider's perspective.
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Chap wrote:Why do I find Mormonism interesting? Well, I think it is a wonderful example of how it is no fatal disadvantage to a religious movement if its basic fact-claims are so implausible that any impartial and uncommitted outsider would dismiss them as at best the product of self-deception, or at worst the result of simple fraud, and if its doctrinal claims are deeply incoherent. So long as people learn the religion when they are kids, they will not see the problems unless someone forces them on their attention - and then they may well refuse to see them.

This is a great point, Chap, and it's one of the reasons I find Mormonism interesting, as well. Thanks for sharing!
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Hey Zeeeezer! :smile:

zeezrom wrote:What would this place be without them?

Sucky.

Please excuse any unintended misrepresentations in the following words.

People like Stak help us remember that just because we aren't sure about God, it isn't proof of nonexistence. Quas has grounded this place with practical humor. Ceeboo is missed, the dear chap. Jersey Girl is gone: what a damn loss- it sucks she is gone. Bond helps our political debates. Even why me has added a perspective that only a nevermo can provide. café and Madeleine are calming and peaceful. MCB is the freshest long timer around. Uncle Dale is my hero and I will never be able to shake him off that pedestal. Chris - your contributions are huge - I think even the mopologists realize that.

I sort of hate these posts because I forget to mention people. Please know you are all appreciated. You bring multiple dimensions to a limited space. Thank you.

I'll add more when they come to mind. I'm in sort of a hurry. I'm like that rabbit with the watch.


Thanks for the kind words, Zee, about us nevermo's. I am humbled to be included on the list of nevermo contributors being discussed on this thread. :smile:

To return a few warm words to you and the MDB community, if I may.
To be a part of this community has been a very enjoyable, rewarding, educational, and largely a most interesting experience.

Above all else (No matter what any of us used to believe, happen to believe now, or might believe in the future), I offer my thanks and appreciation to many here.... who have shared their time, perspectives, personal journey's, opinions, banter, and thoughts with and for me. :smile:

Peace,
Ceeboo
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Thanks for the complement. :-)

I'm glad to be a nevermo, even if I was BIC. :twisted:
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liz3564 wrote:Ms. Jack, Ceeboo, and Chris Smith have all had positive things to say about the LDS Church. They also "call things as they see them" as far as the negative impressions of the Church that they have. However, they are very even-handed. I would not classify any of these folks as anti-Mormon.


Now liz, lets be honest here. The majority of posts on this board are negative or critical, especially from the nevermos and exmos. It comes with the turf. The catholic group, except ceeboo is definitely antimormon. And on catholic answers forum, a couple of them let their true feelings known.

Positives come seldom here.
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Chap wrote:
Why do I find Mormonism interesting? Well, I think it is a wonderful example of how it is no fatal disadvantage to a religious movement if its basic fact-claims are so implausible that any impartial and uncommitted outsider would dismiss them as at best the product of self-deception, or at worst the result of simple fraud, and if its doctrinal claims are deeply incoherent. So long as people learn the religion when they are kids, they will not see the problems unless someone forces them on their attention - and then they may well refuse to see them.


Is this a positive? :lol: My case in point for liz.
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Thanks Chap. Very interesting!

I'm also happy to see the Hungarian teaser.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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Hey Ceeboo! I hope all is well with you.

Cheers,

Zee
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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Now liz, lets be honest here. The majority of posts on this board are negative or critical, especially from the nevermos and exmos. It comes with the turf. The catholic group, except ceeboo is definitely antimormon. And on catholic answers forum, a couple of them let their true feelings known.

Positives come seldom here.


Of course not, and you very well know why ... they are all jealous but have too much pride to admit they are wrong and join the church. :wink:
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