The Light of Christ

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_Chap
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Nightlion wrote:.... Why do you think it happened that the Mormons collected the best of every church in the land? And they did....


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"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110).

And fifty-five wives.

LOL!
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Chap, you need to think a lot deeper. Brigham Young, like some Biblical prophets, stated wrong opinions. However, if you look at all the things he said and taught objectively, you will see something there that you can't find in apostate Christendom, and that is some remarkable revelations and truths! Fifty-five wives? So what? David and Solomon had many more than that!
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gdemetz wrote:Chap, you need to think a lot deeper. Brigham Young, like some Biblical prophets, stated wrong opinions. However, if you look at all the things he said and taught objectively, you will see something there that you can't find in apostate Christendom, and that is some remarkable revelations and truths! Fifty-five wives? So what? David and Solomon had many more than that!


How could the members of the day tell which of Brighams words were wrong opinion and which we're inspired revelation?

And for that matter, how do we tell the difference?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Re: The Light of Christ

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gdemetz wrote:Brigham Young, like some Biblical prophets, stated wrong opinions.


Please give me examples of two 'wrong opinions' stated by Brigham Young, paralleled by similar examples of similar 'wrong opinions' from Biblical prophets.

gdemetz wrote:However, if you look at all the things he said and taught objectively, you will see something there that you can't find in apostate Christendom, and that is some remarkable revelations and truths!


Tell me three of the most 'remarkable revelations and truths' stated by Brigham Young that are found nowhere else. Then tell me how you know independently that these 'truths' are true.

gdemetz wrote:Fifty-five wives? So what? David and Solomon had many more than that!


Rulers of antiquity often kept harems with large numbers of women in them, subjected vast numbers of people to slavery, forced migration and dispossession, and exterminated whole populations as part of military activity. So that makes it OK for someone in the 19th century to do the same? Neat.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: The Light of Christ

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OK Chaps, Nathan told David to build a temple when he was asked, and the Lord had to correct him later just as He had to correct Peter when he originally sided with the Jews regarding the circumcision of gentle converts after Paul "withstood him to his face." One remarkable thing that I learned from reading the discourses of Brigham Young was that he explained how Adam was made from the dust of the earth as stated in Genesis and at the same time also the son of God as stated in Luke! apostate Christendom, of course, is too dumb and ignorant to explain such with no true prophets or revelations! Also, God did not have to repent for allowing polygamy before! He is the one to decide when it is right for man to practice it or not!
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gdemetz wrote:OK Chaps, Nathan told David to build a temple when he was asked, and the Lord had to correct him later just as He had to correct Peter when he originally sided with the Jews regarding the circumcision of gentle converts after Paul "withstood him to his face."


That was your answer to:

"Please give me examples of two 'wrong opinions' stated by Brigham Young, paralleled by similar examples of similar 'wrong opinions' from Biblical prophets."

gdemetz wrote:One remarkable thing that I learned from reading the discourses of Brigham Young was that he explained how Adam was made from the dust of the earth as stated in Genesis and at the same time also the son of God as stated in Luke! apostate Christendom, of course, is too dumb and ignorant to explain such with no true prophets or revelations!


That was your answer to:

"Tell me three of the most 'remarkable revelations and truths' stated by Brigham Young that are found nowhere else. Then tell me how you know independently that these 'truths' are true."

gdemetz wrote:Also, God did not have to repent for allowing polygamy before! He is the one to decide when it is right for man to practice it or not!


That was your response to:

"Rulers of antiquity often kept harems with large numbers of women in them, subjected vast numbers of people to slavery, forced migration and dispossession, and exterminated whole populations as part of military activity. So that makes it OK for someone in the 19th century to do the same? Neat."

Color me unimpressed.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: The Light of Christ

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Chap wrote:Color me unimpressed.


...but not surprised.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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Re: The Light of Christ

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What will it take to impress you Chaps? I didn't have the time to give you all the examples that you asked for! What specific thing don't you understand?!
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Re: The Light of Christ

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gdemetz wrote:Chap, you need to think a lot deeper. Brigham Young, like some Biblical prophets, stated wrong opinions. However, if you look at all the things he said and taught objectively, you will see something there that you can't find in apostate Christendom, and that is some remarkable revelations and truths! Fifty-five wives? So what? David and Solomon had many more than that!

Look to this bit of wisdom in choosing to deal with a brainwashed mind.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
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Re: The Light of Christ

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gdemetz wrote:Thews, are you still here?! Have you forgotten about the list of all the CHRISTIAN teachings and practices done by the LDS?!? Maybe you need to read that again!!!

Once again, the question is what's "Christian" about Mormon theology? (insert answer here).
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
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