The Peterson/Schryver Inquisition

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Jude2 wrote:There is a group of Mormon feminist on Facebook. They claim to be nothing but dear kind hearted Mormons (that’s were the flattery comes in, they flatter themselves a lot) but tell their members to start stealth book clubs and invite the most compassionate women in the ward to join. (of course conservative women can’t possibly be compassionate)  Every conferences they hold a fast hoping for more information from our leaders about our Mother in Heaven.

Half the time I laugh at them and the other half I shake my head wondering why they stay in the Church. I'm sure they would never think of themselves as seeking to destroy the church just change it. They are ‘community organizers’ promoting a socialist liberation theology and their real objective seems to be to plant seeds of discontent.


When you promote this mentality, it's only a matter of time until members start pointing fingers at other members.
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Stormy Waters wrote:
Jude2 wrote:There is a group of Mormon feminist on Facebook. They claim to be nothing but dear kind hearted Mormons (that’s were the flattery comes in, they flatter themselves a lot) but tell their members to start stealth book clubs and invite the most compassionate women in the ward to join. (of course conservative women can’t possibly be compassionate)  Every conferences they hold a fast hoping for more information from our leaders about our Mother in Heaven.

Half the time I laugh at them and the other half I shake my head wondering why they stay in the Church. I'm sure they would never think of themselves as seeking to destroy the church just change it. They are ‘community organizers’ promoting a socialist liberation theology and their real objective seems to be to plant seeds of discontent.


When you promote this mentality, it's only a matter of time until members start pointing fingers at other members.


Heavenly Mother is a socialist liberation theology? Gee... someone better tell that wicked apostate, Eliza R Snow!
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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I wish I could say I am surprised that Will took a lesson covering the complete conversion and born again experience of a wayward youth by the simple act of calling upon God for mercy and turn it into an internecine witchhunt for Mormons who don't measure up to Will's imaginary and procrustean standards.

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Rollo Tomasi:
I had the same impression. It appears to me that Dan and Will have recently become best buds.

Doesn't this just boggle your mind? It does mine. I don't understand it. Consider this:

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One of these thing is not like the other …

Will was always 'off his rocker,' but Dan seems to be headed the same direction, which surprises me. I think Dehlin's having the GA stop Smith's article about Dehlin, really freaked Dan out and knocked him off his apologist "rameumptom." Why Dan would publicly become so close to a lunatic like Will boggles the mind.

This.

It almost makes me think Schryver has some kind of mad Svengali skills. How else do you explain how an otherwise intelligent, respected guy like DCP would permit himself to be manipulated into collaborating on blog posts related to slavery apologetics and internecine Mormon witch hunts? It does boggle the mind. Peterson has nothing to gain and everything to lose by associating with Schryver. And yet, like you said, it appears that Dan and Will have recently become "best buds".
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Bond James Bond wrote:The sad part is he leads in with an fictional anecdote:


By the end of the second century before Christ, during the generation or so following the abdication of King Benjamin, Nephite society had undergone several major. upheavals.


Bond James Bond wrote:Someone might tell these Mormons that Nephite society is no more real than Numenorian society.


Wait! Bond! You mean the Numenorian society is fictional! Damn! My whole world is falling apart. The Nephites and now this. :geek:

On another note, let the Shryvers, and the Peterson's and the BCs take over the Church and you won't have much of a church left so it seems.

Really it is like a have said too Droopy when he wants to attack Joanna Brooks. Go ahead. Toss out the Brooks, the Dehlins, the Jason Bourne's who are more NOMish but does not seek to lead anyone astray. Jason attends, participates and really says nothing to anyone about his concerns because he knows that the Church is a is full of people with straight jackets on when it comes to thinking outside their Mormon world view. They just can't do it and don't do well with challenges to it. I used to be that way too. So kick us all out. Expose us Will, BC, Dan anyone.

Then watch the Church shrink even more. We live in the glory of the information age. The Church has to figure out how to roll with it as well as roll with more and more members who become disillusioned but may want to find a way to stay. The genie is out of the bottle. Bad apologetics will not put him back
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consiglieri wrote:I wish I could say I am surprised that Will took a lesson covering the complete conversion and born again experience of a wayward youth by the simple act of calling upon God for mercy and turn it into an internecine witchhunt for Mormons who don't measure up to Will's imaginary and procrustean standards.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri


Yup. Not surprising at all. What is surprising is the way that Daniel apparently has no problem being implicated in the whole thing by his good ol' buddy Will.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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John Dehlin posted this to his Facebook page.

I just want to go on record as saying that 20th and 21st century LDS apologetics (FAIR, FARMS, Maxwell institute) will go down as destroying more testimonies than any other single Mormon influence. That's what happens when you blame the victim, or give very poor and evasive answers to credible issues.

In other words, I think that Daniel Peterson is talking actually writing about himself and his followers in this article.

http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comment ... hites.html
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The real perversion of the gospel is looking at the life of Christ and believing that the mission of going out after the one includes the unwritten addendum to bring him back and roast him on a spit.
"In my more rebellious days I tried to doubt the existence of the sacred, but the universe kept dancing and life kept writing poetry across my life." ~ David N. Elkins, 1998, Beyond Religion, p. 81
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mercyngrace wrote:The real perversion of the gospel is looking at the life of Christ and believing that the mission of going out after the one includes the unwritten addendum to bring him back and roast him on a spit.


If God did not want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.

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mercyngrace wrote:The real perversion of the gospel is looking at the life of Christ and believing that the mission of going out after the one includes the unwritten addendum to bring him back and roast him on a spit.


I heartily agree, m&g.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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