Tobin wrote:Themis, again showing complete lack of scruples. I said I did not know what she considered about the matter in regards to the other children since there is no recorded statement from the other children about it. If she did consider them children of the prophet by sealing, this only goes towards my point. Not yours.
You did.
Because all the other Lyon children (the ones she considered sealed to Joseph Smith) were maybe, mmmm - wait for it - DEAD!!!! at the time.
I realize you have backed off of that, now you got caught, but if anyone lacks scruples it is you.
Because all the other Lyon children (the ones she considered sealed to Joseph Smith) were maybe, mmmm - wait for it - DEAD!!!! at the time.
I realize you have backed off of that, now you got caught, but if anyone lacks scruples it is you.
Got caught at what exactly? That statement was absolutely factual. I'm perfectly happy to stand by that statement and I dare you to demonstrate otherwise.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Got caught at what exactly? That statement was absolutely factual. I'm perfectly happy to stand by that statement and I dare you to demonstrate otherwise.
Interesting you are standing by a statement you have already backed off of.
And I'll say it again, we don't know what she thought of the status of the remaining children.
Tobin wrote:Got caught at what exactly? That statement was absolutely factual. I'm perfectly happy to stand by that statement and I dare you to demonstrate otherwise.
Interesting you are standing by a statement you have already backed off of.
And I'll say it again, we don't know what she thought of the status of the remaining children.
Yeah, try again. As I said, I don't know what her stance was on the remaining children - only the Lyon children.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Yeah, try again. As I said, I don't know what her stance was on the remaining children - only the Lyon children.
You don't know it on any of them. This is why you failed, even though I think you were trying to fool people into thinking she only had Josephine to tell this to. Your beliefs is that she never had sex with Joseph meaning she knew Josephine was another man's husband. If this was true, then she had no reason to view one child sealed and the other not when none of them would have been Joseph's. There is no reason to think she would either view all or none. The problem is that you need these mental hoops to make your belief work.
Tobin wrote:Yeah, try again. As I said, I don't know what her stance was on the remaining children - only the Lyon children.
You don't know it on any of them. This is why you failed, even though I think you were trying to fool people into thinking she only had Josephine to tell this to. Your beliefs is that she never had sex with Joseph meaning she knew Josephine was another man's husband. If this was true, then she had no reason to view one child sealed and the other not when none of them would have been Joseph's. There is no reason to think she would either view all or none. The problem is that you need these mental hoops to make your belief work.
Uh huh, you are really a broken record on this. When you have some real proof, let's talk.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Uh huh, you are really a broken record on this. When you have some real proof, let's talk.
I never offered proof, but evidence that makes one reasonable and the other not. You can choose what ever you want to believe. I don't have anything at stake for Josephine to be Joseph's daughter or not. It won't make Joseph a real prophet either way.
