New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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Dwarf woolly mammoths persisted until about 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean. http://news.yahoo.com/mammoths-wiped-mu ... 11751.html

This is within the time period of the Book of Ether---the only part of the Book of Mormon that mentions elephants.

We cannot conclusively rule out the possibility that in the extensive trade between ancient peoples of the Arctic Ocean and the Olmecs (who were in all likelihood the Jaredites), dwarf woolly mammoths would have been transferred from an island in the Arctic Ocean to Mesoamerica. Given the tropical climate of Mesoamerica, we would naturally not expect to find these mammoths' remains, since the rain forest is not conducive to fossilization. In fact, the complete absence of evidence of elephants in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica is exactly what we would expect to find if the Book of Mormon is true.

With powerful evidences such as this, it looks like critics of the Book of Mormon have a lot of explaining to do.
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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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Darth J wrote:Dwarf woolly mammoths persisted until about 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean. http://news.yahoo.com/mammoths-wiped-mu ... 11751.html

This is within the time period of the Book of Ether---the only part of the Book of Mormon that mentions elephants.

We cannot conclusively rule out the possibility that in the extensive trade between ancient peoples of the Arctic Ocean and the Olmecs (who were in all likelihood the Jaredites), dwarf woolly mammoths would have been transferred from an island in the Arctic Ocean to Mesoamerica. Given the tropical climate of Mesoamerica, we would naturally not expect to find these mammoths' remains, since the rain forest is not conducive to fossilization. In fact, the complete absence of evidence of elephants in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica is exactly what we would expect to find if the Book of Mormon is true.

With powerful evidences such as this, it looks like critics of the Book of Mormon have a lot of explaining to do.


Of course (smacking my forehead), it always take Darth J to bring me back to my senses. This must apply to horses as well. No horse bones should be found in Mesoamerica because they would have long ago turned to dust or mud in the wet climes of Central America. The Book of Mormon stands. And steel... well I don't know what happened to the steel, but I am sure there is a good explanation.

Oaks are native to both the Americas and Europe. I think this is excellent proof that Nephi had a pocket full of acorns on his journey.
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Back to church everyone!
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just me wrote:Back to church everyone!


I'll have to join first. Please send missionaries. Let me know when they are coming and I'll empty the wine rack.
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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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That's a sweet story, Tator. Your friend reminds me of an older, pleasant TBM man I worked with at Sperry Univac a million years ago. Man, Lloyd was the sweetest, nicest guy in the world. Such a pleasure to be around and a really old school, as in pre-correlation, Mormon. He had his beliefs and he might mention them now and then, but he had nothing but respect for the other fellow's ideas, too.
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zeezrom wrote:How do we know someone from Oregon didn't plant the seeds in Jerusalem?



Excellent point. Replanting from the fine Oregon soil to the Jerusalem desert no doubt produced common myrtlewood.

Zeezrom, do you have any theories regarding the mysterious Myrtle Beach, South Carolina?
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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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Darth J wrote:Dwarf woolly mammoths persisted until about 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean. http://news.yahoo.com/mammoths-wiped-mu ... 11751.html

This is within the time period of the Book of Ether---the only part of the Book of Mormon that mentions elephants.


Elephants and woolly mammoths both had long noses. A tapir has a pretty long nose. Thus the elephants and woolly mammoths are no doubt part of the tapir's family tree, and thus prove the Book of Mormon true.
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A llama and a camel can interbreed. The Book of Mormon does not mention camels or llamas. However, the lack of evidence that the Nephites brought them here does not eliminate the fact that they did.
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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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MCB wrote:A llama and a camel can interbreed. The Book of Mormon does not mention camels or llamas. However, the lack of evidence that the Nephites brought them here does not eliminate the fact that they did.




"A cama is a hybrid between a male dromedary camel and a female llama, produced via artificial insemination at the Camel Reproduction Centre in Dubai.The first cama was born on January 14, 1998. The aim was to create an animal with the size and strength of the camel, but the more cooperative temperament and the higher wool production of the llama." (wikipedia)


That is freaking awesome! I want one for christmas. if I knew how to post photos I would.
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Re: New evidence for the Book of Mormon I had never heard before

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Quasimodo wrote:Rain Deer found in the far north of Europe


Wait a minute. Reindeer are real?
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