DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

[_harmony]

You very well know the answer to those questions. Listen, this is a war. John Dehlin is the enemy, and if some GA can't get with the program, he is either worse than useless or an enemy too. I think we all know the drill.

I wonder when they will take away his Bully Pulpit?

[_Kishkumen]

I wonder when they will take away his Bully Pulpit?

Who? The GA?

[Guest]

Director of Advancement is the new speak term for fund raiser.

Development Council can mean "outsiders" who raise money for an organization or contribute their own.

PLC means President's Leadership Council, a BYU group that is a development council.

In other words, DCP raised the money to publish the journal that he stopped getting around to editing.

In an academic setting (as well as others), there are ethical reasons to keep the editorial function and the fund raising function separate.

Doesn't seem to have bothered the folks at MI

[_harmony]

I wonder when they will take away his Bully Pulpit?

Who? The GA?

The newspaper column.

[_Shulem]

Director of Development or Director of Advancement are the new speak terms for fund raiser.

In other words, DCP raised the money to publish the journal that he stopped getting around to editing.

In an academic setting (as well as others), there are ethical reasons to keep the editorial function and the fund raising function separate.

Doesn't seem to have bothered the folks at MI

Do you suppose someone has been skimming off the top and lining their pockets with perks? Getting paid for being an apologist would tend to lead to all kinds of temptations. I wonder if more intel (emails) will be revealed about that prospect?

Paul O

[_Kishkumen]

The newspaper column.

Ah, that... dunno.

[_harmony]

Director of Advancement is the new speak term for fund raiser.

You'd think I'd know that, since I'm a fundraiser (although my agency doesn't call me a fundraiser either). Hmmm... it's like "fundraiser" or "fund development" is a dirty word, so they hide behind "Advancement"? I bet he makes a ton more money as "Director of Advancement" than I do, though.

Development Council can mean "outsiders" who raise money for an organization or contribute their own.

Hmmmm... I call those folks "volunteers" and "donors".

PLC means President's Leadership Council, a BYU group that is a development council.

Well, that's a high falutin' term for volunteers and donors. Typical BYU speak. So they aren't "insiders" like Dan? Are there other insiders on the PLC?

In other words, DCP raised the money to publish the journal that he stopped getting around to editing.

In an academic setting (as well as others), there are ethical reasons to keep the editorial function and the fund raising function separate.

Doesn't seem to have bothered the folks at MI

What is unethical about combining editor with fundraiser?

[_Jason Bourne]

On Kerry's Facebook post Kevin Barney verified that this isn't a hoax, and one LDS respondent named Riley said "Dehlin's ego must be masturbatory."

I am now strongly leaning and even in the camp that all this seems very real. I won't apologize for doubting until I felt I had better evidence.

It amazes me how quickly they are to forget that the Church reprimanded Dan Peterson, not John Dehlin. Why make excuses as to why that is so? Why not just accept it and follow your Church's decision? Is their love of Dan greater than their love for the Church? Are we going to hear now that the General Authority was just acting as a man?

For some yes. Their love of debate, defense, winning at all costs, being self proclaimed purgers, etc is greater than their love for the Church. Look at some who post here...Droopy and BC for example. Die on every hill is their motto. BC is so hell bent on trashing democrats that he thinks he would tell a Democrat GA that the GA is apostate. Look at Schryver. Really, look at many on MDD. Look at one of the major defenses of the apologist, that of dismissing so much of prior GA teaching as speculation and opinion even. Marginalize whoever and whatever to win. Win at all costs.

[_harmony]

Win at all costs.

The cost for some looks to be pretty high.

[Guest]

Director of Advancement is the new speak term for fund raiser.

You'd think I'd know that, since I'm a fundraiser (although my agency doesn't call me a fundraiser either). Hmmm... it's like "fundraiser" or "fund development" is a dirty word, so they hide behind "Advancement"? I bet he makes a ton more money as "Director of Advancement" than I do, though.

Development Council can mean "outsiders" who raise money for an organization or contribute their own.

Hmmmm... I call those folks "volunteers" and "donors".

PLC means President's Leadership Council, a BYU group that is a development council.

Well, that's a high falutin' term for volunteers and donors. Typical BYU speak. So they aren't "insiders" like Dan? Are there other insiders on the PLC?

In other words, DCP raised the money to publish the journal that he stopped getting around to editing.

In an academic setting (as well as others), there are ethical reasons to keep the editorial function and the fund raising function separate.

Doesn't seem to have bothered the folks at MI

What is unethical about combining editor with fundraiser?

Here's a link to BYU's PLC
http://magazine.BYU.edu/?a=1813&act=view

College and university employees typically don't have enough disposable income to get on something like that.

The problem with the scholar, editor, Director of Advancement thing is that if it is all one person, it looks like the scholar is selling his "objective" conclusions to the people with the money. Sort of like letting the nightly news advertisers pick and write the stories.

Which is pretty much what DCP was doing. Some rich folk liked it that he ticked of the heathens and liberal Mormons and paid "him" money to do so.

But now in the Mormon Moment that doesn't fit with the larger objective of the church and DCP got neglectful of actually producing product. And prima donas can be a real pain. Even Jesse Norman finally got herself fired from the Met. So DCP doesn't get to pay himself any more.

The funding Trump card is most effective (especially in Mormonism) if you play it quietly and in advance. Dan didn't have that much finess. He played it loudly and after the fact. But Bradford is probably smart enough to know the DCP held that card.

Dan thinks that METI is his next best card and you can see him playing it in the email. Is there another Mormon Ph.D. in Islamic studies that could pick up the portfolio? BYU has hired non-Mormons on occasion. A Muslim scholar at METI could be an even bigger bridge builder than METI itself.

When I taught, I did my first lecture of each course on "how knowledge is manufactured." Once I had the students read the WSJ article on Quinn. Wish I was still teaching, I'd include these emails. I tell the student in jest, you've all heard never ask how sausage and laws are made. You can add knowledge to that list. It's a messy business.