The Consiglieris Must Be Crazy!

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Re: The Consiglieris Must Be Crazy!

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Drifting wrote:You need to add the following as a footnote to your letter...


Consiglieri is not owned, controlled by or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All research and opinions provided are the sole responsibility of Consiglieri, and should not be interpreted as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief or practice.


LOL!

Unfortunately, things have degenerated in the LDS Church to the point that no statemements by anyone are to be considered official.

All the Best!

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mercyngrace wrote:
Take me now before I change my mind...


Okay.

Now I am impressed.

And that is the official position of the LDS Church on mercyngrace, too!

All the Best!

--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
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consiglieri wrote:Any other ideas?


Throw some 1st Peter 3 at them:

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;


You aren't instructing Saints on doctrine, you are having a conversation about the reasons for the hope within you, not the hope within your Stake Prez.
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consiglieri wrote:
mercyngrace wrote:
Take me now before I change my mind...


Okay.

Now I am impressed.

And that is the official position of the LDS Church on mercyngrace, too!

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

Of course, mercyngrace was likely not instructed that that movie was unsuitable for members - and was blasphemous because it showed Jesus' humanity.
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I like this idea Consiglieri. It is much easier for an individual to initiate a grass roots understanding than a huge bureaucracy. An acorn comes before the mighty oak.

All research and opinions provided are the sole responsibility of Consiglieri, and should not be interpreted as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief or practice.


Excellent disclaimer. Otherwise, you would need Bcspace to tag along.
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malkie wrote:Of course, mercyngrace was likely not instructed that that movie was unsuitable for members - and was blasphemous because it showed Jesus' humanity.


Our local high school performed a modified version in the late 70s and the marching band included a song or two from the production in their halftime show. It's amazing, in retrospect, that the Southern Baptists didn't turn our community's love affair with Jesus Christ Superstar into more of a scandal. We Mormons were such a minority, we couldn't have raised a protest if every member on the rolls turned out with a placard.

I was just a kid but I remember the play and my oldest siblings singing the songs all the time.
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mercyngrace wrote:
malkie wrote:Of course, mercyngrace was likely not instructed that that movie was unsuitable for members - and was blasphemous because it showed Jesus' humanity.


Our local high school performed a modified version in the late 70s and the marching band included a song or two from the production in their halftime show. It's amazing, in retrospect, that the Southern Baptists didn't turn our community's love affair with Jesus Christ Superstar into more of a scandal. We Mormons were such a minority, we couldn't have raised a protest if every member on the rolls turned out with a placard.

I was just a kid but I remember the play and my oldest siblings singing the songs all the time.

When I was a TBM I loved the music from Jesus Christ Superstar, but the word came down from the Mission President that the members in Scotland were not to see the movie. So I didn't (;=(
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malkie wrote:
mercyngrace wrote:Our local high school performed a modified version in the late 70s and the marching band included a song or two from the production in their halftime show. It's amazing, in retrospect, that the Southern Baptists didn't turn our community's love affair with Jesus Christ Superstar into more of a scandal. We Mormons were such a minority, we couldn't have raised a protest if every member on the rolls turned out with a placard.

I was just a kid but I remember the play and my oldest siblings singing the songs all the time.

When I was a TBM I loved the music from Jesus Christ Superstar, but the word came down from the Mission President that the members in Scotland were not to see the movie. So I didn't (;=(
You can rent it now. :wink: I give you my permission to see it.
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Maybe what do you get when you mix Methodists, Masons and Magic in the early 1800's?

Mormonism.
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lulu wrote:Maybe what do you get when you mix Methodists, Masons and Magic in the early 1800's?

Mormonism.

Then, the Mormons got cornered on the nature of an apostasy in early Christianity. They turned to Irenaeus' Against Heresies and Clement's Stromata. They decided to resurrect the gnostic heresies, which fit in nicely with magic. Then you get chaos, with power-hungry prophets claiming knowedge to which others have no access. Mormons just need to assert their gnostic freedom to think and question for themselves.
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