Which is more damning, Fascimile 2 or 3?

[_sock puppet]

Paul knows much, much more than I about the Book of Abraham than I do.

From my perspective though, more compelling than 'Can you tell me the name of the king written in the writing of Facsimile No. 3?' is all the problems with Facsimile No. 2.

Sure, No. 3 is insulting to the Egyptian religion. No. 2, however, was 'restored' by the Mormon prophet by inserting hieratic characters everywhere the hypocephalus had been torn away. Everywhere the hypocephalus was yet intact, it bears no hieratic characters, only hieroglyphic characters and pictographs.

At that, JSJr 'restored' some of the hieratic characters upside down in relation to the direction that the preserved hieroglyphic characters appear.

JSJr lifted the hieratic characters used to restore No. 2 from the sensen papyrus.

There is also a strange coincidence about which segments (keyed by numbers JSJr added) he provide.d and which he did not.

Of course, as with No. 3, current Egyptology and Ancient Egyptian language shows too that No. 2 was not what JSJr touted it to be.

So, Paul, could you explain why you find No. 3 more telling than No. 2?

[_lulu]

Marrying Helen Mar.

[_Samantabhadra]

I'll let Paul speak for Paul but I think the main reason is just the sheer obviousness of the fraud in Facsimile 3. Facsimile 2 is more obviously a fraud if you already understand the difference between hieratic and hieroglyphic script. But it is not quite as obviously damning (to laypeople) in the way that "this says the name of a king" when it says no such thing is damning.

[_Lucifer]

Wait till you see Fascimile 4.

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[_Shulem]

The Facsimile No. 3 presentation is pretty straight foward and the Explanations offered by Egyptologist Joe Smith seem simple enough to follow. Hence, it's much easier to look at than the complicated Hypocephalus and all the little things going on in there. Bear in mind that many Mormons tend to be dumb and aren't going to spend much time examining something critical to the church such as anti-Mormon presentations and more especially complicated things that are over their head.

But the familiar image of Facsimile No. 3 is a foot in the door -- and simple statements about the false Explanations of Egyptologist Joe Smith are very likely to be read by the simple minded Mormon who is looking for further intelligence. That's why Facsimile No. 3 is so valuable in attacking the misplaced faith of Mormons. Once they look at the Facsimile more carefully and understand the differences between what Joe Smith said and what Egyptologists have to say it will cause their faith to shake. That's the whole idea in using it as a missionary tool against the Mormons. It's quick and decisive. It's a magic bullet and not even Hugh Nibley could deal with it in a coherent mind. The General Authorities won't touch it -- they are scared to death of it!

Use the Facsimile No. 3 to attack the saints. It's a no brainer.

I hope that helps.

Paul O

[_Shulem]

This is proof that Mormons today continue to insult the African race by calling them slaves. The Mormons have never apologized for this error and continue to mock the Egyptian god Anubis in every printing of LDS scripture. It's so shameful!

Figure 6
Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.



This is going to eventually come to haunt the General Authorities. Once this makes the news media they won't let it go. It just hasn't caught on, yet.

Paul O

[_DarkHelmet]

Debating which part of the Book of Abraham is the most obvious fraud is like debating which pornstar has the fakest tits.