The Brethren and Church Discipline

[_RayAgostini]

So, under what circumstances does the LDS Church sanction the public accusation of members who have not been disciplined?

Anyone? I know we have had some experienced priesthood holders with some leadership experience under their belts posting and lurking here.

How do Droopy's volunteer efforts to accuse people of apostasy publicly square with the policies and doctrines of the LDS Church as practiced and promulgated by those in authority, i.e., the General Authorities of the Church?

I mean, I don't recall the last time I saw an apostle call out someone like Paul Toscano by name, accuse him of apostasy, and then tell the other members to watch out for that wolf in sheep's clothing or some such.

Do critical reviews of books authored by members constitute calling those member authors "apostates"?

Be explicit and give some examples from The Review (RBBM, FRB, MSR).

[_Kishkumen]

Do critical reviews of books authored by members constitute calling those member authors "apostates"?

No.

[_RayAgostini]

No.

What "public accusations" have contributors to The Review leveled at author/members?

[_Racer]

If the OMIDS are disciplined it won't be public. This would be too much of a perceived win for the evil apostates. They won't give us any more fodder. Here are some signs to look for that might hint that the OMIDS were smacked down by church leaders.

1. Vitriolic anti MI posts on MD&D and Hamblins blogs mysteriously vanish.
2. Folks like DCP recanting what they said "I was just blown' off some steam, I fully support the direction of the MI and Bradford and I are on the same page."
3. Folks like Hamblin also publicly recanting his vitriol. "Hey sometimes people disagree and its unfortunate that this spilled out to the general public, but we are all on the same page now and are excited for the new direction MI is taking.
4. Everything will get down played and it will disappear like it never happened.
5. 50 years from now people will be told the whole MI blow up was just "folklore" and never happened.

[_Kishkumen]

What "public accusations" have contributors to The Review leveled at author/members?

Ray, there are threads covering this material. I invite you to pay particular attention to my critique of Greg Smith's review of Laura Compton. I am not going to restate work already done every time you decide to repeat the question.

[_RayAgostini]

Ray, there are threads covering this material. I invite you to pay particular attention to my critique of Greg Smith's review of Laura Compton. I am not going to restate work already done every time you decide to repeat the question.

Give me a link to what you feel is your best effort on this subject, where you make the best arguments that Smith has "accused" Compton. Take your time.

[_Kishkumen]

Give me a link to what you feel is your best effort on this subject, where you make the best arguments that Smith has "accused" Compton. Take your time.

No. I have nothing to prove to you. I am not interested in discussing this with you. You can look for the material. Most every regular participant knows it is there. You're just acting out. Do your own homework. I wrote it. I published it here. Look it up. You have a search function like everyone else.

[_RayAgostini]

No. I have nothing to prove to you. I am not interested in discussing this with you. You can look for the material. Most every regular participant knows it is there. You're just acting out. Do your own homework. I wrote it. I published it here. Look it up. You have a search function like everyone else.

No problem. I have a good link, if that is the best you can come up with as far as "accusations" go.

Later.

[_Kishkumen]

No problem. I have a good link, if that is the best you can come up with as far as "accusations" go.

Later.

It is plenty "good" as an example of the kind of thing that ought not to have ever been published in the Review on BYU campus. And there are more where that came from. If you are fine with Greg Smith accusing Laura Compton of lying in wait to deceive, then you are fine with it. That's your business.

Why even argue about this with you?

I am just happy that the Review will no longer publish attacks on members of the LDS Church from BYU campus. So, there really is no reason for the two of us to rehash history.

Unfortunately it happened, and now it is done. For the latter, we can all be grateful. Everyone wins.

[_RayAgostini]

If you are fine with Greg Smith accusing Laura Compton of lying in wait to deceive, then you are fine with it. That's your business.

I didn't see that anywhere. All I saw was your interpretations of what Greg Smith wrote, and your extrapolations as to what he "really meant".