Fence Sitter wrote: I think there are quite a few posters over there that try and hold civil discourse. In fact I think there are more that are respectful than not. What happens there is the "Seleks" respond to everything, so while the number of asses is not a majority, the number of posts by them is.
Just my .02
That seems to be true to me as well. There are decent people, it's just nearly impossible to have a discussion with them due to the regulars taking over every thread.
That is typical of Mormon culture. The more obnoxious ones do everything they can to squelch any critical thinking, and intimidate those who they think are in the opposition. Censorship by talking over everyone else-- loudly.
Glad to meet you, selek2.
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Racer wrote:Who is this person? Every once in a while I will lurk on MD&D and this Selek douchebag is always on the attack, or bullying somebody. Does Selek ever post anything that is not attacking someone or being rude to someone? I have never seen Selek add any thoughtful discourse to anything on that board. Does he post on this board?
I have NEVER seen a meaningful response from him. I would guess his responses are 90% attack 10% non negative (notice I didn't say positive). He has become one of the untouchables over there. He, Pahoran, Will, and Wade are allowed to be as nasty as they want with out being banned. Non members are banned at an insinuation. Most of those four don't post here because of the level playing field. They can't cry to a Mod to save them. I don't think Selek posts here, but if I remember correctly he has a clever stalker that has adopted his moniker.
Is Wade England seriously still hanging out on boards harassing people? I haven't looked at Mormon boards in like 7 years but he was doing that way back then. I would think he would have gotten tired of it by now.
I offer the following in hope to end your truely insufferable and what I consider juvenile badgering, and yes, you have badgered me on this point endlessly. And you badgering has not been to provide any amount of substance or necessary information to the discussion.....
cwald wrote:
Isn't that what Selek is all about? Every thread...every discussion....every new poster...it is very annoying.
Somebodyz wrote: No it isn't. But the blind won't see. You and treehugger, in my opinion enjoy bullying and badgering him.
OMG! Unbelievable.
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
selek1 is actually doing a great job on MDD. He is needed there.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
MCB wrote:That is typical of Mormon culture. The more obnoxious ones do everything they can to squelch any critical thinking, and intimidate those who they think are in the opposition. Censorship by talking over everyone else-- loudly.
Are you sure that you are not writing about the catholic answers discussion board? All critical thinking about Mormonism has been crushed by the Mormon haters on that forum. keep up the good work in crushing critical thinking there.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
To be honest, your posts were a little confusing. But I did give you good advice. Tone up your debating skills and with time this will happen.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
To be honest, your posts were a little confusing. But I did give you good advice. Tone up your debating skills and with time this will happen.
And therein lies the problem whyme. Great "debate skills" are not going to help you keep people believing in the church. Tone is a very important thing when dealing with honest questioners.
To be honest, your posts were a little confusing. But I did give you good advice. Tone up your debating skills and with time this will happen.
I guess that is what i couldn't get all the a-holes over there to understand. I really was not interested in DEBATE.
for what it's worth - Yes, your were not the problem why me, and you did contribute one neutral post my way the whole weekend. Perhaps if you and mods had some guts and stood up to Selek and Cal and all the other cronies when they do this crap to new members... I could respect you. As it is...
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson