Lest Ye Celebrate Too Heartily....

[_Lucifer]

Schadenfreude:
Delight in another's misfortune.

Is it misfortune when it is brought upon ones self by ones own nasty antics? What is it when one feels satisfaction that another's nastiness has been rewarded by just consequences?

Mormonism.

\m/

[_Kishkumen]

Unless he was wrongly reported, Jesus didn't say that "the weak will inherit the earth". Being "meek" doesn't mean that you have to register as a doormat.

Being strong is not the same as being a braggart and a bully. The latter are characteristic of weakness, as is the apologetic furor over the recent developments at the Maxwell Institute. There are plenty of temper tantrums and gnashing of teeth; there is not a lot of adult behavior.

[_Kishkumen]

I agree that you don't have to be a doormat, but you don't have to be a prick either. (When I say "you", I don't mean you personally)

Yes!

[_harmony]

But victories are not always won, in fact seldom won, by timid, shy, "humble" and retiring characters.

This is not a war.

[_sansfoy]

But victories are not always won, in fact seldom won, by timid, shy, "humble" and retiring characters.

This is not a war.

Maybe not, but it isn't a friendly game of cards, either. Both sides would agree that there are very real stakes involved.

[_Kishkumen]

Maybe not, but it isn't a friendly game of cards, either. Both sides would agree that there are very real stakes involved.

The problem that I have is that it seems certain apologists make it their business to exaggerate and stoke the "war" in order to promote their own agenda. There is, in point of fact, much less stark disagreement on a whole range of issues than they would lead you to believe. They have an agenda to promote their own brand of conservative Mormonism, and to that end they are picking fights with the liberals and associating them with apostates in order to gain an advantage.

No one should be fooled by their ideological campaign against those who do not share their particular interpretation of Mormonism. I think you will see that there are a number of faithful Mormons who do not share this ideology they push. These Mormons haven't said a lot, because it is difficult to speak openly against these characters, as it has been from the days of Joseph F. Smith at least. But they are there, and they have voiced their disagreement on occasion, both at MDDB and elsewhere. Just go look at what Blair Hodges has to say in response to Ralph Hancock's anti-Dehlin article. Interesting stuff.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Now he can get back to what is important.

[_RayAgostini]

This is not a war.

Oh, I forgot, the war was in heaven, wasn't it?

[_RayAgostini]

Being strong is not the same as being a braggart and a bully. The latter are characteristic of weakness, as is the apologetic furor over the recent developments at the Maxwell Institute. There are plenty of temper tantrums and gnashing of teeth; there is not a lot of adult behavior.

It's funny how you pick on "mopologists" for "temper tantrums", "gnashing of teeth", "not a lot of adult behavior", being "braggarts and bullies", yet don't look at your own behaviour, and the behaviour of many here. Ridicule and mockery are the order of the day - and you say nothing about them. You're quite okay calling a Mormon defender a "dipstick", and ranting and raving how "evil" "mopologists" are, and your totally flimsy excuse will be, as usual, "it's only a message board". We have "willpologists", "peterpologists", "DCP-ites", "DCP posse", and on and on it goes, and you're perfectly fine with that?

I'm not going to engage you much more (or the mockers), and I know it must be boring to many. So I'll leave you free to rave and rant here on your "home board","like an adult", if that makes you feel better. The last thing I have to say is that DCP's assessment of you was 100% spot on.

If things are going to change, the change has to work both ways (individually and collectively), and you should encourage the civility you so yearn for at the MI and "mopologists".

I'll let you have the last word.

[_RockSlider]

I think it shows some real humility and heart felt empathy, in reflection.

Several here have proven Ray correct and are just being asses.

God Bless Dan ... really, all the best to you.