Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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You don't count for the likes of faq, bcspace and droopy. I've used the example of my faithful, temple-worthy, mission-serving parents as well. They are adamant democrats, and use the Book of Mormon to justify their preference for that party.


And they are misguided and, perhaps, delusional in their use of the scriptures to justify such loyalty to a party who's fundamental ideological orientation is thoroughly hostile to the gospel of Jesus Christ and its core conceptions and ideals.

In one ear and out the other.


No, you're parents are simply trapped between two competing religions, and at some point, the call to "choose you this day" will have to be answered in some final and decisive manner.
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I get the impression that faq/BCSpace/Droppy would prefer that your parents were not part of their church.



Where did you get that impression? Search me. I would prefer that they repent and come unto Christ, far from wanting to see anyone such as this out of the Church.
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Droopy at 11:02 A.M. CDT this morning wrote:And now, once again, I must be going...


Droopy at 11:39 A.M. CDT this morning wrote:
Where did you get that impression? Search me. I would prefer that they repent and come unto Christ, far from wanting to see anyone such as this out of the Church.
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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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I'm proud to say that my friend wrote this article. Very well done.

Also noted: bcspace calls Elder Jensen a liar. Hahaha. Good stuff. I'm half convinced that bcspace is an ex-Mormon with an epic sense of humor.
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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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If a man as brilliant as B.H. Roberts, who knew LDS history and scripture as well as he did, felt socialism and leftist political views were consistent with Mormonism, it seems silly for Droppy, BC Space, LDSfaqs, et. al. to suggest otherwise.



And Mr. Roberts, if such is actually the case, was wrong, and devastatingly so. We can play the my-General-Authority-can-beat-up-your-General-Authority game all the day long, but the fact remains that corralling and deploying isolated GAs against the overwhelming consensus of General Authority teaching (the way EV Christians isolate and deploy Paul against the rest of the New Testament regarding the nature of grace) over nearly two centuries (as well as against logic, critical thought, the laws of economics, and thousands of years of human history and experience) is an exercise in futility.

The crux of the matter is that what we call "Leftism" or "Progressivism" is, in point of fact, a central hub of the Great and Abominable Church of the Devil the Book of Mormon foresees would have the entire world and its people under its boot in the last days.

There is no let's pretend about this, nor that the core principles of the the Left, Progressivism, "social justice" movements etc. are, at their core, part of the ancient and ever reemerging pattern of anti-Christ, also spoken of in the Book of Mormon. One can be a part of and supportive of one, or the other, but not both.
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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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Equality wrote:
Droopy at 11:02 A.M. CDT this morning wrote:And now, once again, I must be going...




Lol.
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Droopy wrote:
... B.H. Roberts...


... anti-Christ ...


I love it. Droopy is irreplaceable.

But ... want the doggy back! Want see the doggy!!!

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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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Droopy wrote:
As I said in the other article, the Church considers both the Democratic and the Republican Party compatible with LDS theology.


CFR.


This statement on political neutrality seems to do just that....

The Church’s mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to elect politicians. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is neutral in matters of party politics. This applies in all of the many nations in which it is established.

The Church does not:

Endorse, promote or oppose political parties, candidates or platforms.

Allow its church buildings, membership lists or other resources to be used for partisan political purposes.

Attempt to direct its members as to which candidate or party they should give their votes to. This policy applies whether or not a candidate for office is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Attempt to direct or dictate to a government leader.


And it's from President Newsroom, so we can call it "official".
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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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Droopy wrote:
I get the impression that faq/BCSpace/Droppy would prefer that your parents were not part of their church.



Where did you get that impression? Search me. I would prefer that they repent and come unto Christ, far from wanting to see anyone such as this out of the Church.


Would part of their repentance process be to revoke their Democratic party membership? It must really piss you off when people like Beastie's parents and Harry Reid are allowed to carry a temple recommend. Harry Reid is not just a democrat, he is a party leader, and yet every year his Bishop and SP interview him and find him worthy to hold a temple recommend. Perhaps it is the church leaders who are allowing the Democrats to be members in good standing without going through the repentance process who should be disciplined.
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Re: Gladys Knight will not vote for Mitt Romney

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bcspace wrote:The article repeats the "leaving in droves" myth so it certainly isn't going to be reliable as to it's conclusions.




drove 2 (drv) n.
1. A flock or herd being driven in a body.
2.
a. A large mass of people moving or acting as a body.


How many people resign from the church each year? I have heard that it could be up to 100,000 a year. I think that number is too high but I think it is safe to say that people are resigning by the tens of thousands each year so I think that would equal droves. And that is only counting those who resign.
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