The Art of Anti-Mormon War

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Re: The Art of Anti-Mormon War

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Droopy = Just another OMID troll sock.
Or a strongly retarded wannabe moNOpologist.

You have nothing intelligent to say, no intelligent comments to other peoples posts, just moNOpologist drool.

Do you think throwing rocks at John Dehlin will speed him on his way to outer darkness?
John Dehlin is more Christlike in his way, than the lot of you(OMIDS) have ever been in your wet dreams.

Now you have been found on the left side, and have publicly been spoonfed the words; "I knew you not".
Maby its time to take a chill pill and realize that the only thing you can achieve by continued moronistic behavior, is increasing everyones perception of how crazy you guys are.

Please note that you are still alowed to state your twisted trolling witout being banned..
On your home forum people are banned for not being servile enough to the golden calf named DCP.

Seems like your golden calf has been taken down by the modern prophets.
About Joseph Smith.. How do you think his persona was influenced by being the storyteller since childhood? Mastering the art of going pale, changing his voice, and mesmerizing his audience.. How do you think he was influenced by keeping secrets and lying for his wife and the church members for decades?
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Droopy wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:You know who (other than John Dehlin) is responsible to be concerned about John Dehlin?

His priesthood leaders.

End of story.



Your actual knowledge and comprehension of priesthood law and government is zero, Kishkumen, which means your incompetence in interpreting those laws and covenants in practical application is equally nonexistent.

His incompetance is nonexistent? OK, I agree.
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moksha wrote:
Droopy wrote:
Where is the article? Where can I view/download it on the web. Did Dehlin himself ever read it? Who here has read it? Please point me to a single sentence in the essay in question for perusal?

Thanks in advance.

Loran


Good to see you back Loran. My own guess is that it is securely stored in the offices of the FAIR Bureau of Investigation, next to the Midgley report on Brother Palmer.

Have you heard whether the MDD crowd is arming itself with extra rhetoric and preparing to storm the Maxwell, in conjunction with the hot air from the Stadium of Fire?


Is that also where the Schryver/Midgley DNA evidence is kept?
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Your actual knowledge and comprehension of priesthood law and government is zero, Kishkumen, which means your incompetence in interpreting those laws and covenants in practical application is equally nonexistent.


His incompetance is nonexistent? OK, I agree.



Sorry. This should have read:

Your actual knowledge and comprehension of priesthood law and government is zero, Kishkumen, which means your competence in interpreting those laws and covenants in practical application is equally nonexistent.


I'm sorry for the mis-typing there. Kishkumen's very clever, but unfortunately facile and overwrought sophistries deployed in an attempt to twist and deform the actual doctrine and teaching of the Church relative to priesthood government, law, and the extent and applicability of the covenants and responsibilities of each member vis-a-vis the the more generalized callings of the Brethren respecting the entire Church, were fairly slick - but incompetent.

I just had the word on my brain, at the time.

Don't worry, I know what the game is, which is to shield Dehlin from any and all possible criticism, and leave him free to criticize the church and subvert doubting and unstable members without response or criticism of his own ideology and methods. Kishkumen's modus operandi here is quite clear: delegitimate any possible attempt by faithful members/apologists to critique, challenge, and intellectually oppose Dehlin on any grounds whatsoever, and use a cleverly warped and distorted interpretation of the very laws of church government themselves to do it. Make the laws of the priesthood themselves appear to delegitimate the entire concept of apologetics per se, there by giving the wolves a field of action within which no opposition, resistance, or bebuttle is morally allowed.

Brilliant! Audacious!

Fail.

Any criticism of Dehlin at all is, itself, a form of apostasy by any member who dares confront or critique the fragile flower himself. In the meantime, Dehlin is free to purvey his sensitive, bathotic, emotionally manipulative, liberal (in the contemporary American cultural and ideological sense) brand of Oprahpostasy, without challenge, opposition, or having to defend his conduct and supporting beliefs in the arena of ideas.

In the real world (kitchen), Dehlin is going to have to withstand heat (apologetic challenge and scrutiny), or he should, as the old proverb says, get out of it.

Once again, the Saints have to just lay back and enjoy it, because resistance and questioning are completely disallowed, according to Kishkumen, by new constraints and limitations he has invented respecting the limits and conditions of priesthood authority.

No one with any experience in and knowledge of Church doctrine regarding priesthood, or who has ever taken its oath and covenant, will be fooled by Kishkumen's pseuodo-intellectual anything-for-the-cause flim flam here, but some without such knowledge might be tempted to think that he knows what he's talking about.

Or, they may be tempted to believe that Kish is in any sense, an intellectually honest broker on any subject dealing with the Church, which would be an even further disassociation from reality.
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And now, once again, I must be going...
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I guess Droopy couldn't refrain from returning. Big surprise there. If only he had anything worthwhile to say.
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Kishkumen wrote:I guess Droopy couldn't refrain from returning. Big surprise there. If only he had anything worthwhile to say.


To be fair, he does use a lot of words.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:To be fair, he does use a lot of words.


Yes, he certainly does. A wealth of words spent on a poverty of ideas.

Everyone got a bad deal there.
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Kishkumen wrote:Yes, he certainly does. A wealth of words spent on a poverty of ideas.

Everyone got a bad deal there.


Vacuous is as vacuous says.
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Droopy wrote:
...No one with any experience in and knowledge of Church doctrine regarding priesthood, or who has ever taken its oath and covenant, will be fooled by Kishkumen's pseuodo-intellectual anything-for-the-cause flim flam here, but some without such knowledge might be tempted to think that he knows what he's talking about...


Wrong.

by the way - this is such a devious sentence. Basically there isn't any options besides what Droopy believes. You are either a fool, or, a tempted fool.
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