Is Gladys Knight in deep do-do with her Stake Pres?

[_Bob Loblaw]

There's no need. Just excommunicate for apostasy those who publicly support, for example, homosexuality or socialism, both in direct opposition to major doctrines. Most, if not all, will be Democrats or worse.

What could possibly be worse than a Democrat?

I've never met an active Mormon in real life who doesn't agree with me and that includes GA's.

I have on many occasions, including current and former GAs. That you are out of harmony with the church just increases the unintended irony in your posts.

The Church is merely protecting itself on the PR front for the moment.

If that were true, they'd probably be telling people like you to shut the “F” up.

[_son of Ishmael]

If nothing else, you're consistent. Maybe the Democrats in the church are just tares waiting for the burning.

They are. Unless they repent.

It does warm my apostate heart to see such infighting among Mormons. You folks will destroy the church, and I won't even have to lift a finger. I'll just sit back and watch you argue about who is more morally and politically righteous.

You should see us all at some Stake high council, Bishopric, or priesthood meeting discussing the latest news before the meeting starts. Someone might say "I can't believe Harry Reid is still a member of the Church" to which there is always a unanimous rumble of assent. There is no infighting in the Church. There is only infighting on obscure message boards like this one or MDD between apostates and those on the road to apostasy.

Show me one public statement by a GA that says members of the church who are democrats must repent and become republicans. You are talking out of your arse.

[_Bob Loblaw]

You should see us all at some Stake high council, Bishopric, or priesthood meeting discussing the latest news before the meeting starts. Someone might say "I can't believe Harry Reid is still a member of the Church" to which there is always a unanimous rumble of assent. There is no infighting in the Church. There is only infighting on obscure message boards like this one or MDD between apostates and those on the road to apostasy.

As long as you are publicly disparaging a significant part of the church membership, that would qualify as infighting. I know believing, active Mormons who think Harry Reid is too conservative and too accommodating to Republicans. It's fine to hold these kinds of extreme positions in private, but when you go public, like you are here, you are causing division in the church. Of course, I'm glad you do it, as it just means more people who will be attacked and prompted to leave the church.

[_Cylon]

Sure they do. "Democrat" is simply a catch-all word that accurately identifies someone as being in opposition to doctrine. Most Mormons would agree by going down a list of sins and doctrines that such a person is in opposition. I merely skip to the end because I've been down that road many many times.

Wait a second, you don't get to just completely redefine a word just to suit your delusions. A Democrat is a member of a specific American political party. Whether or not they are in opposition to this or that religious doctrine has nothing to do with it.

There's no need. Just excommunicate for apostasy those who publicly support, for example, homosexuality or socialism, both in direct opposition to major doctrines. Most, if not all, will be Democrats or worse.

And your execution of that would still lead you to the exact same place, ie, a Mormon church that is devoid of any political variability and that is deeply distrusted by non-Mormon Americans of all political persuasions.

I've never met an active Mormon in real life who doesn't agree with me and that includes GA's. The Church is merely protecting itself on the PR front for the moment.

Regardless of how many Mormons agree with you, it still doesn't change what the result of completely implementing your ideals would be: a disaster.

[_DarkHelmet]

I've never met an active Mormon in real life who doesn't agree with me and that includes GA's. The Church is merely protecting itself on the PR front for the moment.

The funny thing is, the point that BC Space is arguing is the common "myth" the PR department is trying to debunk. The church is working really hard to soften its image, and guys like BC Space are undermining their efforts. Keep telling it like it is, BC Space. The truth needs to get out there to counter all of the lies and spin.

[_Bob Loblaw]

The funny thing is, the point that BC Space is arguing is the common "myth" the PR department is trying to debunk. The church is working really hard to soften its image, and guys like BC Space are undermining their efforts. Keep telling it like it is, BC Space. The truth needs to get out there to counter all of the lies and spin.

I wonder how Mormons are supposed to vote in countries where there isn't a conservative, free-market capitalist political party. What say you, spaceman?

[_DarkHelmet]

The funny thing is, the point that BC Space is arguing is the common "myth" the PR department is trying to debunk. The church is working really hard to soften its image, and guys like BC Space are undermining their efforts. Keep telling it like it is, BC Space. The truth needs to get out there to counter all of the lies and spin.

I wonder how Mormons are supposed to vote in countries where there isn't a conservative, free-market capitalist political party. What say you, spaceman?

If you were born outside of America, you were less valiant in the pre-existence. No need to worry about politics in the lesser countries. Just endure til the end, when Christ comes to Jackson County, Missouri and establishes a worldwide conservative, free-market political system.

[_cwald]

So keep it up, bcspace. If you're successful in convincing all Mormons that voting Democrat is evil, then you'll see some real anti-mormon persecution.

I've never met an active Mormon in real life who doesn't agree with me and that includes GA's. The Church is merely protecting itself on the PR front for the moment.

OMG.

[_bcspace]

What could possibly be worse than a Democrat?

Green Party, New Party, etc.

[_bcspace]

I doubt that since you do not live along the mo'rridor of Utah or one of the mo'enclaves of ID or AZ.

I find that most active Mormons outside of these areas tend to be more liberal and accepting of outside views.

CA, MT, ID, UT, Texas, OH, KY....all the same.