Are clothes resurrected?

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Makes me wonder: What about jewelry? shoes? scrunchies? nail polish?


No scrunchies. Those are in Hell.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
lostindc wrote:Yes clothes are resurrected. So are pets.


Makes me wonder: What about jewelry? shoes? scrunchies? nail polish?


All of these objects are something I have considered. I believe John Bytheway is working on a book that will focus on this very subject.

I am not one to say yes that all of these items are resurrected; but if you have a donation you can drop in my paypal then maybe I can check with my source again.
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Sophocles wrote:Or is there some magic going on where Moroni speaks in his native earthly tongue, or even some glorified Celestial language, and Joseph Smith hears English—like how the Tardis translates everything its passengers see and hear in alien worlds? (Surely Darth J will be along with a more applicable analogue from D&D.)


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Comprehend Languages (Alteration)
Level: 1 Components: V, S, M Range: Touch Casting Time: 1 round Duration: 5 rounds/level Saving Throw: None Area of Effect: One written object or speaking creature

Explanation/Description: When this spell is cast, the magic-user is able to read an otherwise incomprehensible written message such as a treasure map (but not a magical writing, other than to know it is "magic") or understand the language of a speaking creature. In either case, the magic-user must touch the object to be read or the creature to be understood, and the spell does not enable the spell caster to write or speak the language. The material components of this spell are a pinch of soot and a few grains of salt. The reverse, Confuse Languages, prevents comprehension or cancels a Comprehend Languages spell.
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Sophocles wrote:...
Speaking of which, where did Moroni learn Elizabethan English? ...


He learned it from God of course.

God speaks Bible English - haven't you read his word as recorded in D&C? Bible English is of course a living language, and changes slowly over time (not very fast, because speech in Heaven is mostly a monologue from God), which explains why God's language as spoken to Joseph Smith has shifted a bit from the version used by King James's men.

Reading the latest transmissions from Warren Jeffs, one can detect further changes in celestial usage. Isn't is wonderful?
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Bob Loblaw wrote:Joseph Smith describes Moroni thusly:

"He had on a loose robe of most exquisite whiteness. It was a whiteness beyond anything earthly I had ever seen; nor do I believe that any earthly thing could be made to appear so exceedingly white and brilliant. His hands were naked, and his arms also, a little above the wrist; so, also, were his feet naked, as were his legs, a little above the ankles. His head and neck were also bare. I could discover that he had no other clothing on but this robe, as it was open, so that I could see into his bosom."

Moroni is supposed to be a resurrected being. If so, where did he get his clothes? Was he resurrected with the robe he had on when he died, or is there some kind of Deseret robe-making operation staffed by resurrected couple missionaries?


I don't care the robes. Resurrected beings can be naked or dressed as Nǃxau.

How he could be identified?

Have had he a name-tag? Or a t-shirt? Image


When Moroni introduced himself, did he pronounced the "i" in his name as that letter/sound as in fill, find or first?
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ludwigm wrote:
Bob Loblaw wrote:Joseph Smith describes Moroni thusly:

"He had on a loose robe of most exquisite whiteness. It was a whiteness beyond anything earthly I had ever seen; nor do I believe that any earthly thing could be made to appear so exceedingly white and brilliant. His hands were naked, and his arms also, a little above the wrist; so, also, were his feet naked, as were his legs, a little above the ankles. His head and neck were also bare. I could discover that he had no other clothing on but this robe, as it was open, so that I could see into his bosom."

Moroni is supposed to be a resurrected being. If so, where did he get his clothes? Was he resurrected with the robe he had on when he died, or is there some kind of Deseret robe-making operation staffed by resurrected couple missionaries?


I don't care the robes. Resurrected beings can be naked or dressed as Nǃxau.

How he could be identified?

Have had he a name-tag? Or a t-shirt? Image


When Moroni introduced himself, did he pronounced the "i" in his name as that letter/sound as in fill, find or first?


find
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See this guy's sweater?

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It was fashioned by the gods in heaven. It is a resurrected article of clothing.

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Did you know a resurrected being appeared to Mario Fortuny and taught him the art of micro pleating? Nobody has since been able to figure out how he did it.
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zeezrom wrote:Did you know a resurrected being appeared to Mario Fortuny and taught him the art of micro pleating? Nobody has since been able to figure out how he did it.


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The presence of clothing like this on an apparition is one of the things that flashes warning lights spelling out 'someone is imagining this on the basis of the local religious stereotypes of their culture, including the fashions they saw in religious illustrations'.


Notice the lack of wings in the description.
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