Lest Ye Celebrate Too Heartily....

[_Chap]

... I have a burning testimony that the Book of Mormon is true.

...

Preparation H, used topically, can help to reduce those uncomfortable burning sensations.










More seriously, the conclusion that something is true is, I would suggest, more appropriately reached after evaluating and weighing the evidence for or against than by introspecting about the strength of one's emotions about that topic.

The practice of deciding whether something is true or false on the basis of feelings rather than facts is a distinctive feature of Mormonism that seems very hard to shake off. Of course, given the extreme weakness of the factual case for Mormonism, it is not at all surprising that this way of making decisions is explicitly inculcated by the CoJCoLDS.

[_Ludd]

Frankly, I don't know why you care either. (And why do I care what you care about, one might ask?)

Maybe I should just "come out" and say that I have a burning testimony that the Book of Mormon is true.

It's not something that I logically understand, but it's something that I deeply feel.

Pepto Bismol might help. Certainly can't hurt.

[_ludwigm]

Orgasmic awesomeness covered in chocolate and bacon.
H.

Mmmmmmmmmm Bacon

[_RayAgostini]

The practice of deciding whether something is true or false on the basis of feelings rather than facts is a distinctive feature of Mormonism that seems very hard to shake off. Of course, given the extreme weakness of the factual case for Mormonism, it is not at all surprising that this way of making decisions is explicitly inculcated by the CoJCoLDS.

I made my decision about the Book of Mormon before I was "explicitly inculcated by the CoJCoLDS."

[_Racer]

Thanks for the advice except I don't drink. Wait a minute? Do you think I left the church cuz I wanted to sin and party it up? I left because I was offended. Just kidding. I left strictly because after studying the church strictly based on its history and scientific problems facing the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham. About 9-10 years ago I was preparing a lesson for my Gospel Doctrine class. I decided to turn to the internet and you probably know the rest of the story. It took several years of study before I reached the final conclusion. It didn't happen overnight.

I am familiar with it. There's no need to turn on your religion, or come here and add to the mockery of it. You should respect it, and look at all the positive things it has added to your life, instead of the negative things. Don't add your voice to this chorus of discontent. But the choice is yours.

There were some positive take aways I gathered from Mormonism that I will always be grateful for. I don't think I have turned on my religion. I live in peace with my fellow LDS friends. I don't force my apostate beliefs on them. If people are happy in Mormonism, I think that is great. It just didn't turn out that way for me. Their are many paths to happiness. I occasionally like outlets like this though because I can come on here and see there are many others in my shoes and I can also speak my mind or use humor to relieve the stress of not talking about these issue with friends and family because I don't want to upset them or their testimonies whether real or perceived.

[_Ludd]

I have a burning testimonkey of Mormon Jesus. I stole it from the organ grinder and doused it with kerosene. My faith alone provided the spark to set it afire. And what a fire it was! We roasted kosher franks and jumbo marshmallows.

[_RayAgostini]

There were some positive take aways I gathered from Mormonism that I will always be grateful for. I don't think I have turned on my religion. I live in peace with my fellow LDS friends. I don't force my apostate beliefs on them. If people are happy in Mormonism, I think that is great. It just didn't turn out that way for me. Their are many paths to happiness. I occasionally like outlets like this though because I can come on here and see there are many others in my shoes and I can also speak my mind or use humor to relieve the stress of not talking about these issue with friends and family because I don't want to upset them or their testimonies whether real or perceived.

It's not an easy situation to be in, and I fully understand. But there's no need to contribute to the blatant mockery of Mormonism (not saying that you have done this), your religion, here on this board. If you're happy with your decision to leave - no problem. If you're truly happy, then you should never feel vindictive, because that's not what happiness is about. It's about forgiveness, mercy and tolerance, and maybe appreciating the very many good things the Church contributed to your life, and moving on without any vindictiveness.

There's no shame, whatsoever, whether active or inactive, in saying - "I am a Mormon".

[_Chap]

There were some positive take aways I gathered from Mormonism that I will always be grateful for. I don't think I have turned on my religion. I live in peace with my fellow LDS friends. I don't force my apostate beliefs on them. If people are happy in Mormonism, I think that is great. It just didn't turn out that way for me. Their are many paths to happiness. I occasionally like outlets like this though because I can come on here and see there are many others in my shoes and I can also speak my mind or use humor to relieve the stress of not talking about these issue with friends and family because I don't want to upset them or their testimonies whether real or perceived.

It's not an easy situation to be in, and I fully understand. But there's no need to contribute to the blatant mockery of Mormonism (not saying that you have done this), your religion, here on this board. If you're happy with your decision to leave - no problem. If you're truly happy, then you should never feel vindictive, because that's not what happiness is about. It's about forgiveness, mercy and tolerance, and maybe appreciating the very many good things the Church contributed to your life, and moving on without any vindictiveness.

There's no shame, whatsoever, whether active or inactive, in saying - "I am a Mormon".

He has explained clearly why he posts here Ray - see bolded portion. Can't you just let him have his say without constantly shushing at him?

Earlier you complained about his posts being 'cut and paste' and repetitive. My goodness, you can talk about repetitive!

[_RayAgostini]

He has explained clearly why he posts here Ray - see bolded portion. Can't you just let him have his say without constantly shushing at him?

Earlier you complained about his posts being 'cut and paste' and repetitive. My goodness, you can talk about repetitive!

I'm glad he explained that, after I probed him, Chap.

Now you have a good day, or night, too, okay? And don't join this Mormon-bashing thing here on MDB. It's clear even to a person with below-average IQ that you're no dummy. So don't lower your IQ by joining the Mormon-bashers, okay?

Peace, mate.

[_Drifting]

Really?

Really.

So, if it's not too personal a question, what keeps you away from activity in the Church?