Lest Ye Celebrate Too Heartily....

[_RayAgostini]

So, if it's not too personal a question, what keeps you away from activity in the Church?

Weakness. I know more than I can live in action. But that doesn't mean I won't one day seek fellowship with the Saints once again. They are "my people", but I'm not worthy of them, at this time.

2 Wherefore, in my days, I would that ye should know that I fought much with the sword to preserve my people, the Nephites, from falling into the hands of their enemies, the Lamanites. But behold, I of myself am a wicked man, and I have not kept the statutes and the commandments of the Lord as I ought to have done. (Omni 1)

[_Drifting]

So, if it's not too personal a question, what keeps you away from activity in the Church?

Weakness. I know more than I can live in action. But that doesn't mean I won't one day seek fellowship with the Saints once again. They are "my people", but I'm not worthy of them, at this time.

2 Wherefore, in my days, I would that ye should know that I fought much with the sword to preserve my people, the Nephites, from falling into the hands of their enemies, the Lamanites. But behold, I of myself am a wicked man, and I have not kept the statutes and the commandments of the Lord as I ought to have done. (Omni 1)

Thanks for that Ray, I wish you well and hope that you can realise that you are always worthy of the fellowship of members of the Church.

We had a member who used to nip out to the car park for a quick cigarette between Sacrament and Sunday School. One day I overheard another member saying how wicked and disgusting it was. I went (loudly) ape sh1t at him. Church is not for perfect people Ray and if you feel it is you are not listening to Christ.

Take it easy man.

[_Chap]

....

Weakness. I know more than I can live in action. But that doesn't mean I won't one day seek fellowship with the Saints once again. They are "my people", but I'm not worthy of them, at this time.

...

My goodness - I am so glad I never got myself emotionally invested in a church that you had to be worthy of! The one I was in was strictly for sinners.

[_Kishkumen]

It's funny how you pick on "mopologists" for "temper tantrums", "gnashing of teeth", "not a lot of adult behavior", being "braggarts and bullies", yet don't look at your own behaviour, and the behaviour of many here. Ridicule and mockery are the order of the day - and you say nothing about them. You're quite okay calling a Mormon defender a "dipstick", and ranting and raving how "evil" "mopologists" are, and your totally flimsy excuse will be, as usual, "it's only a message board". We have "willpologists", "peterpologists", "DCP-ites", "DCP posse", and on and on it goes, and you're perfectly fine with that?

Do you ever tire of placing quotations around every fifth word, Ray? One wonders what you think scare quotes are for. Mere emphasis?

In any case, Droopy is just a dipstick. He came here to pick fights with people like me not so much because he is a believing Mormon as he is a fringe conservative wacko who loves thumbing through his thesaurus and reading his own rants. He's not a bad guy at heart. He's just dreadfully tedious.

I'm not going to engage you much more (or the mockers), and I know it must be boring to many. So I'll leave you free to rave and rant here on your "home board","like an adult", if that makes you feel better. The last thing I have to say is that DCP's assessment of you was 100% spot on.

Dear me. How can I possibly go on if Ray, DCP's personal friend and defender, thinks that DCP was 100% right? One thing is clear; you really know how to ingratiate yourself with DCP. Saying he is 100% right is a well proven method.

If things are going to change, the change has to work both ways (individually and collectively), and you should encourage the civility you so yearn for at the MI and "mopologists".

I'll let you have the last word.

I got what I wanted, Ray. It was Christmas in June this year. The rest will all be gravy.

[_RayAgostini]

My goodness - I am so glad I never got myself emotionally invested in a church that you had to be worthy of! The one I was in was strictly for sinners.

The thing is, Mormonism is just not "any other religion". And the Book of Mormon is not just "any other book". I'm convinced that it's inspired, and that it came through the mediation of a modern prophet, who, at 23 years of age, gave the world a modern revelation. Joseph is a man I truly, deeply admire, and I don't believe that he could have "concocted" the Book of Mormon, and I totally reject the silly "Spalding" theories, which have been long discredited, yet remain a force in the fuzzy agenda-ridden minds of his critics, some of whom haven't even read the Book of Mormon!

This is no fake or fraud religion. It's the real thing, in my view, and I'll hang on to the Book of Mormon as evidence for this - until the day I die.

No man could have produced that book, unless he was inspired from heaven. And on my last breath - I will so testify.

Ignore Kiskumen! He will have his just reward - in time.

[_RayAgostini]

You are a dishonest person, and a traitor.

[_Kishkumen]

You are a dishonest person, and a traitor.

Says the betrayer of a longtime friend. You have zero credibility. You are the man who falsely accuses others.

[_RayAgostini]

Says the betrayer of a longtime friend. You have zero credibility. You are the man who falsely accuses others.

You are no friend. You are a dishonest person. I don't trust you. Simple as that. You don't have 1% of the integrity that DCP does.

I honestly don't want to know you, and your disgusting views on Mormonism and "mopologists".

[_LDSToronto]

You are a dishonest person, and a traitor.

And you, Ray, are betting on a losing horse. Your heroes, religious and otherwise, are all false idols.

H.

[_LDSToronto]

Says the betrayer of a longtime friend. You have zero credibility. You are the man who falsely accuses others.

You are no friend. You are a dishonest person. I don't trust you. Simple as that. You don't have 1% of the integrity that DCP does.

I honestly don't want to know you, and your disgusting views on Mormonism and "mopologists".

The Reverend may only be 1% the mass of DCP, true. Integrity, however, is amply supplied and demonstrated by his actions.

More than I can say for all you Peterpologists and Hamblinites.

H.