Darth J wrote:You have statistics about things that have not happened yet? Are you sure you're not taking statistics from other events that have already happened and extrapolating them, like this study? Whether what is true of Massachusetts proves true of the entire United States is something that can only be guessed at. Unless we have someone who can see the future, like a stake patriarch or Thomas S. Monson or a person like that.
Did the statistics you crunched take into account the inability of the federal government to cut Medicare funding for states that opt out?
ETA: And none of this is relevant to whether the various provisions of the Act are constitutional.
I cannot really speak on any of this right now. Best of luck. I appreciate your passion.
lulu wrote:Obama and Roberts were nose to nose. Roberts blinked.
Samantabhadra wrote:Nah, I don't think it was like that. Roberts is a smart guy who began seeing that his chief legacy as Chief Justice might well have been Citizens United unless something changed quickly. I think he is fundamentally fair-minded, a Conservative in the good sense, not a partisan hack like Thomas.
lulu wrote:Discretion may be the better part of valor. But it was still a blink.
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"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Interestingly today I happen to be in DC. My son in law, who had been an intern for a congressman, arranged a private tour of the Capitol. We took the metro and got off near the Supremen Court Building. It was quite a special outside there. The decision had not yet been announced so after watching the crowd for a bit we met our guide for our tour. The decision was announced while we were enjoying an excellent tour of this grand building. Very impressive place. At the end of the tour we were able to go sit in the gallery above the house chamber and the the senate chamber. While in the senate chamber I heard Senator Reid speak in very positive terns about the decision. Shortly after he spoke Senator McConnol came in and spoke about how horrible the decision was and he vowed that the republicans would repeal the law. It was a very exciting day to be at our Nation's Capitol.
Jason Bourne wrote:Interestingly today I happen to be in DC. My son in law, who had been an intern for a congressman, arranged a private tour of the Capitol. We took the metro and got off near the Supremen Court Building. It was quite a special outside there. The decision had not yet been announced so after watching the crowd for a bit we met our guide for our tour. The decision was announced while we were enjoying an excellent tour of this grand building. Very impressive place. At the end of the tour we were able to go sit in the gallery above the house chamber and the the senate chamber. While in the senate chamber I heard Senator Reid speak in very positive terns about the decision. Shortly after he spoke Senator McConnol came in and spoke about how horrible the decision was and he vowed that the republicans would repeal the law. It was a very exciting day to be at our Nation's Capitol.
Cool, Jason.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Jason Bourne wrote:Interestingly today I happen to be in DC. My son in law, who had been an intern for a congressman, arranged a private tour of the Capitol. We took the metro and got off near the Supremen Court Building. It was quite a special outside there. The decision had not yet been announced so after watching the crowd for a bit we met our guide for our tour. The decision was announced while we were enjoying an excellent tour of this grand building. Very impressive place. At the end of the tour we were able to go sit in the gallery above the house chamber and the the senate chamber. While in the senate chamber I heard Senator Reid speak in very positive terns about the decision. Shortly after he spoke Senator McConnol came in and spoke about how horrible the decision was and he vowed that the republicans would repeal the law. It was a very exciting day to be at our Nation's Capitol.
great story, this is why I enjoy working in Washington.
Will this reform help more people get healthcare that could not get it before? That's all I really want to know.
Not as many as we might like, because of having to give up on the "public option" to get enough support. But that is certainly the goal and the expectation.
Much of the ACA won't take effect until 2014, but there are reportedly already six million young adults who are insured now because of the law's requirement to allow kids up to age 26 to remain on their parents' policies.
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
zeezrom wrote:Will this reform help more people get healthcare that could not get it before? That's all I really want to know.
Easier in the sense that pre-existing conditions will pretty much be a thing of the past. But the insurance companies will have to price the premiums higher to pay for the fact that they are taking on known risks, i.e., people with already-diagnosed conditions.
Also driving premiums up will be the elimination of annual and liftetime caps on benefits paid under the policies.
But probably the biggest driver in the upward costs of premiums will be the new rule requiring that experimental drugs and treatments be covered just as FDA-approved ones are. These experimental drugs and treatments come at tremendous costs compared to the tried-and-true ones that have FDA approval.
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Jason Bourne wrote: While in the senate chamber I heard Senator Reid speak in very positive terns about the decision. Shortly after he spoke Senator McConnol came in and spoke about how horrible the decision was and he vowed that the republicans would repeal the law.
Do you believe that either of them had time to read the 193-page opinion before holding forth on the merits of it?