Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

[_Bob Loblaw]

So are saying that in addition to stating the suspect is black, it's also wrong to state the suspect is black and is wearing a blue shirt?

Again, what a stupid response. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever heard.

Saying an entire people is cursed with dark skin because of their wickedness is not the same as saying someone is wearing a blue shirt. Only a conditioned idiot would make such an analogy.

You seem to be operating under the delusion that, because something makes sense to you, it must be a good argument.

[_Bob Loblaw]

No. In the Book of Mormon case, dark skin is part of the curse. But notice, they were not lazy or wicked because they had dark skin either before or after the curse. Hence, no racism.

They were just wicked. Are you really this damned stupid?

[_Yoda]

If we are teaching our children that dark skin is a curse from God, then what is that child supposed to think about their peers who have different colored skin?

Are we not all supposed to be special to God? Our uniqueness should be taught to our children as a blessing, not a curse.

[_Chap]

You are leading us to believe that the author was simply stating that Laman and Lemuel's followers became a dark-skinned people, but that the dark skin was not considered the curse. Is that right?

No. In the Book of Mormon case, dark skin is part of the curse. But notice, they were not lazy or wicked because they had dark skin either before or after the curse. Hence, no racism.

Jesus Christ.

"Hey kids! Look at the story in this book. If you do bad things God will turn you into black people."

That could not possibly make white Mormon kids think that having a black skin indicates anything bad. Never.

Jesus Christ.

Sorry - even though I don't believe in Christianity any more there are times when no secular imprecation is as effective as blasphemy in discharging feelings of irritation and frustration at stupidity.

[_Bob Loblaw]

If we are teaching our children that dark skin is a curse from God, then what is that child supposed to think about their peers who have different colored skin?

Are we not all supposed to be special to God? Our uniqueness should be taught to our children as a blessing, not a curse.

Not to mention that believing skin color is a result of a curse betrays an ignorance of basic science.

[_bcspace]

I don't think that was Porter's argument.

He really didn't have an argument. But such as it was, I addressed it.

Edited to add---I would say that the fact that dark skin is reflected as a curse from God to be racist.

Doesn't match any definition of racism except the noble savage argument implied by such as Sharpton and Jackson who erroneously assume that non whites can do no wrong.

If we are teaching our children that dark skin is a curse from God, then what is that child supposed to think about their peers who have different colored skin?

In the Mesoamerican case, that their ancestors were cursed with dark skin. The Church has plenty of teaching that prevents any actual racism among those who are active, believing, and come to Church.

Are we not all supposed to be special to God? Our uniqueness should be taught to our children as a blessing, not a curse.

Sure. The Church does not teach otherwise.

[_bcspace]

Not to mention that believing skin color is a result of a curse betrays an ignorance of basic science.

No, it betrays a belief in God, who by the way, besides being able to accomplish things science can't explain, also seemed to use science in the PofGP case. In that case, dark skin doesn't seem to be a curse but the effect of "much heat" because the land was cursed.

[_Bob Loblaw]

No, it betrays a belief in God, who by the way, besides being able to accomplish things science can't explain, also seemed to use science in the PofGP case. In that case, dark skin doesn't seem to be a curse but the effect of "much heat" because the land was cursed.

Too bad the church took "much heat" as an excuse to ban black people from the priesthood. Why are you changing the subject, anyway? The manual says they were cursed with dark skin for their wickedness. It's a neat trick to pretend that pointing out the racist nature of such a statement is itself racist. Maybe someone out there, somewhere might buy that, but everyone else sees it for what it is: a lame attempt to wave off racism.

[Guest]

Too bad the church took "much heat" as an excuse to ban black people from the priesthood.

That would not be consistent with the doctrine.

It's a neat trick to pretend that pointing out the racist nature of such a statement is itself racist.

Would be quite a trick indeed. However, the likes of Sharpton and Jackson have had to resort to lying and playing the race card or the victim card in order to deceive others into believing things like it.

[_Bob Loblaw]

That would not be consistent with the doctrine.

Cool. So the apostles and prophets were mistaken as to the doctrine for 148 years. Good to know that.