You may be right. You would think most Mormons would want these guys to stop embarrassing the church. I enjoy watching them do it. Makes my mission to warn off investigators that much easier.
Anti Mormonism, your brand, actually seems to drive at least half the convert baptisms in our Stake (approx 50 per year). What usually happens is they become curious because of the outrageous or outlandish claims (yellow journalism) you guys make. Upon further study, they see the falsehood and irrational hate of anti Mormonism and settle down to trying the Church on it's merits and by personal revelation.
bcspace wrote:Anti Mormonism, your brand, actually seems to drive at least half the convert baptisms in our Stake (approx 50 per year). What usually happens is they become curious because of the outrageous or outlandish claims (yellow journalism) you guys make. Upon further study, they see the falsehood and irrational hate of anti Mormonism and settle down to trying the Church on it's merits and by personal revelation.
Your stake must be awash in people with limited critical-thinking skills. After all, you're in your stake.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
You may be right. You would think most Mormons would want these guys to stop embarrassing the church. I enjoy watching them do it. Makes my mission to warn off investigators that much easier.
Anti Mormonism, your brand, actually seems to drive at least half the convert baptisms in our Stake (approx 50 per year). What usually happens is they become curious because of the outrageous or outlandish claims (yellow journalism) you guys make. Upon further study, they see the falsehood and irrational hate of anti Mormonism and settle down to trying the Church on it's merits and by personal revelation.
Looks like it. If people want to join the LDS church because they are being taught the stupidity that passes for bcspace's thought, better such people stay in a small, marginal religion.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
You may be right. You would think most Mormons would want these guys to stop embarrassing the church. I enjoy watching them do it. Makes my mission to warn off investigators that much easier.
Anti Mormonism, your brand, actually seems to drive at least half the convert baptisms in our Stake (approx 50 per year). What usually happens is they become curious because of the outrageous or outlandish claims (yellow journalism) you guys make. Upon further study, they see the falsehood and irrational hate of anti Mormonism and settle down to trying the Church on it's merits and by personal revelation.
If this were true (which I highly doubt), one wonders why the Church doesn't just link to "anti" web sites instead of telling its members to never visit them. If "anti Mormonism" leads to 25 baptisms per stake per year, you'd think the church would spend money promoting anti Mormonism instead of the insipid "I'm a Mormon" campaign. Maybe the Brethren don't want the church to grow--that's why they try to fight "anti Mormonism." Makes perfect sense in bc's world.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Equality wrote:If this were true (which I highly doubt), one wonders why the Church doesn't just link to "anti" web sites instead of telling its members to never visit them. If "anti Mormonism" leads to 25 baptisms per stake per year, you'd think the church would spend money promoting anti Mormonism instead of the insipid "I'm a Mormon" campaign. Maybe the Brethren don't want the church to grow--that's why they try to fight "anti Mormonism." Makes perfect sense in bc's world.
I do my part to direct people to bcspace and other apologists. I welcome their idiocy. There is no better illustration of what potential converts are getting themselves into.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
I certainly don't endorse bcspace's concept of Mormons having to be Republicans. Every time he says something like that I just shake my head. I don't think that has anything to do with Mormonism nor should it.
I also don't endorse racism that is or has been practiced or taught in the past. The Mormon Church (thanks to BY and the prophets that followed him all the way up to President Kimball), has a terrible record on racism. They should do everything they can to apologize and make that right. I would love to see them invite black leaders (and leaders from other races) to come address people in General Conference. I would wish they'd take the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr. and others and teach them in their Church meetings. I would wish they'd have Gospel music and the spirit in their meetings. But, to date, it is only my wish. Hopefully someday it will be a reality.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:I certainly don't endorse bcspace's concept of Mormons having to be Republicans. Every time he says something like that I just shake my head. I don't think that has anything to do with Mormonism nor should it.
I also don't endorse racism that is or has been practiced or taught in the past. The Mormon Church (thanks to BY and the prophets that followed him all the way up to President Kimball), has a terrible record on racism. They should do everything they can to apologize and make that right. I would love to see them invite black leaders (and leaders from other races) to come address people in General Conference. I would wish they'd take the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr. and others and teach them in their Church meetings. I would wish they'd have Gospel music and the spirit in their meetings. But, to date, it is only my wish. Hopefully someday it will be a reality.
I didn't realize you were an apostate.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Tobin wrote:I certainly don't endorse bcspace's concept of Mormons having to be Republicans. Every time he says something like that I just shake my head. I don't think that has anything to do with Mormonism nor should it.
I also don't endorse racism that is or has been practiced or taught in the past. The Mormon Church (thanks to BY and the prophets that followed him all the way up to President Kimball), has a terrible record on racism. They should do everything they can to apologize and make that right. I would love to see them invite black leaders (and leaders from other races) to come address people in General Conference. I would wish they'd take the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr. and others and teach them in their Church meetings. I would wish they'd have Gospel music and the spirit in their meetings. But, to date, it is only my wish. Hopefully someday it will be a reality.
I didn't realize you were an apostate.
I'm not, despite bcspace's opinion otherwise.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
