Hinckley was all wet ...

[_Mike Reed]

They banned me from the Facebook group for my comments.

[_Yoda]

They banned me from the Facebook group for my comments.

Which Facebook group?

[_Aristotle Smith]

They aren't exactly hiding who they are:

NOTE: this site and the “Restore FARMS” Facebook page are not affiliated with Daniel C. Peterson, John W. Welch, William J. Hamblin, or any others associated with the Maxwell Institute or FARMS. Nor were they consulted in it’s creation. It is solely the work of Tevya Washburn and Bryce Haymond. We accept responsibility for it’s contents and message, with the hope that many supporters of FARMS and the Maxwell Institute will join us in voicing this opinion and restoring FARMS to it’s former status, academic purpose, and publishing schedule.

I have no idea who Tevya Washburn is, but Bryce Haymond runs the templestudy.com website.

[_lulu]

1. Don't they know Dan resigned?

2. Have the others been "fired" too?

Harmony,

This is why it reminds me of the right wing fringe of the 90s. Before long these apologist will be sneaking in the Salt Lake City Temple and having prayer circles.

Big time.

Why was Avraham Gileadi ex'ed?

[_Bob Loblaw]

They banned me from the Facebook group for my comments.

I'm shocked, I tell ya.

[_Equality]

It seems these supporters of the brilliant and persecuted cutting-edge scholars don't know the difference between "it's" and "its."

I know the difference but still sometimes type the wrong one if I'm not paying attention.

I sometimes do as well (and, FSM knows, my effing iPhone tries its best to make me look like I am unschooled), but if I were putting up a web site, I am sure I would check it carefully for such mistakes before putting it up.

They also seem to have trouble with subject/verb agreement:

Their firings were handled extremely poorly, and appears to be the result of “forward thinking,”

Not that there is anything terribly wrong with that, if you are a Major League Baseball manager, but for people trying to garner support for "cutting-edge scholarship," one might expect a higher standard than that which is applied to, say, Ron Washington.

by the way, I love the chart they have on there (or should I say "their," lol):

It's almost like something happened in the last 10-15 years that caused apologetics to suffer. Could it be, I don't know, widespread access to the Internet?

[_Bob Loblaw]

It's almost like something happened in the last 10-15 years that caused apologetics to suffer. Could it be, I don't know, widespread access to the Internet?

You think? Truth is Mormonism's enemy, and "truth will prevail."

[_robuchan]

Could DCP have been fired just simply due to production related issues. Do I interpret this chart correctly that they just weren't producing much material? I wouldn't assume it was due to the internet. He was two quarters late, and it appears all he had was a crappy article on John Dehlin authored by a medical doctor in Canada which no one in any academic community is going to be impressed by. Maybe he just wasn't getting work done. People get fired for that all the time.

[_Equality]

Could DCP have been fired just simply due to production related issues. Do I interpret this chart correctly that they just weren't producing much material? I wouldn't assume it was due to the internet. He was two quarters late, and it appears all he had was a crappy article on John Dehlin authored by a medical doctor in Canada which no one in any academic community is going to be impressed by. Maybe he just wasn't getting work done. People get fired for that all the time.

The email from Bradford mentions the delayed production, but it's clear it was more about the direction of the journal. DCP was in a snit because his file leaders scuttled the Dehlin hit piece. Instead of working hard to replace the hit piece with a piece of "cutting-edge scholarship," he ordered some donuts, dragged his feet, then took a vacation to the so-called Holy Land. So, yeah, maybe it was a little of both: the failure to produce solid scholarship combined with the failure to meet production deadlines combined with the failure to display even a modicum of charity in dealing with his perceived foes. The common denominator is the word failure.

[_Juggler Vain]

by the way, I love the chart they have on there (or should I say "their," lol):
[*snip*]
It's almost like something happened in the last 10-15 years that caused apologetics to suffer. Could it be, I don't know, widespread access to the Internet?

What happened in 2008-9? Seems like an event of some sort that can't be expressed in graph. Am I seeing the simultaneous existence of two different numbers of "Insights"? Same thing with the item "Book chapters, unique auth..." What has really been going on at NAMIRS?