Dr. Shades wrote:I wonder if there is anyone on MD&D who believe him.
The mods obviously don't or they wouldn't be banning people for pointing out his dishonesty.
It's hard to decide if Wilfredo is evil or crazy--or both. No, it's not hard. He's both.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Bob Loblaw wrote:The mods obviously don't or they wouldn't be banning people for pointing out his dishonesty.
It's hard to decide if Wilfredo is evil or crazy--or both. No, it's not hard. He's both.
I don't think he's crazy or evil. I think he's just a pathetically sad example of a church member who hates his life and desperately wants to be something he's not. He made choices in his early life that put him on the path he is currently on, and he feels trapped by those choices. The only way he feels good about himself and his life now is to bury his inadequacies under as much hubris as he can muster.
Pathetic and sad are the most apt words I can find to describe him.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
harmony wrote:I don't think he's crazy or evil. I think he's just a pathetically sad example of a church member who hates his life and desperately wants to be something he's not. He made choices in his early life that put him on the path he is currently on, and he feels trapped by those choices. The only way he feels good about himself and his life now is to bury his inadequacies under as much hubris as he can muster.
Pathetic and sad are the most apt words I can find to describe him.
I used to think that. I felt sorry for him because of the reasons you mentioned; every time I read something of his, I wondered at the depth of the inferiority complex that would drive someone to act like that. I have seen enough of him to stop feeling bad for him. Whether his motivations are pitiable or not, his actions and words are evil, which is not something I pity.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
The bottom line is this: I have composed many a post of sharp, cutting prose over the years.
This guy makes a fart joke seem witty by comparison.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Bob Loblaw wrote:MIssed this nugget from sociopath Schryver:
The bottom line is this: I have composed many a post of sharp, cutting prose over the years.
This guy makes a fart joke seem witty by comparison.
LOL.
Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in verbose verse is hardly clever. It's an excuse for wit and anyone with a thesaurus can do it. (Example provided.)
Real wit can be a simple as saying "Bless his heart."
My favorite posters, in terms of writing style, at MDDB were always Consig, Cinepro, and Senator because they can get more across with 5 words than anyone else in the board can convey in a dissertation length OP.
"In my more rebellious days I tried to doubt the existence of the sacred, but the universe kept dancing and life kept writing poetry across my life." ~ David N. Elkins, 1998, Beyond Religion, p. 81
I see a lot in common between apologists like Will Schryver and Daniel Peterson and the Newt Gingrich campaign.
Such a flawed candidate would surely hurt the cause of the GOP more than help it. Yet there is a certain voter who is so angry at Obama and the Democrats that they want revenge even more than they want to win. They saw Gingrich as the candidate who was both smart enough and vicious enough to embarrass Obama in a televised debate. That's what they craved more than anything else, to see Obama put in his place by his intellectual superior, even if it meant nominating someone who was ultimately unelectable.
I think there are a lot of believers who are similarly offended by the critics who publish what they consider to be anti-Mormon literature. They feel personally attacked, and they want to respond in kind. They don't really care if it ultimately helps or hurts the cause of the church, and that's why Peterson and his ilk are able to raise so much money.
Sophocles wrote:I see a lot in common between apologists like Will Schryver and Daniel Peterson and the Newt Gingrich campaign.
Such a flawed candidate would surely hurt the cause of the GOP more than help it. Yet there is a certain voter who is so angry at Obama and the Democrats that they want revenge even more than they want to win. They saw Gingrich as the candidate who was both smart enough and vicious enough to embarrass Obama in a televised debate. That's what they craved more than anything else, to see Obama put in his place by his intellectual superior, even if it meant nominating someone who was ultimately unelectable.
I think there are a lot of believers who are similarly offended by the critics who publish what they consider to be anti-Mormon literature. They feel personally attacked, and they want to respond in kind. They don't really care if it ultimately helps or hurts the cause of the church, and that's why Peterson and his ilk are able to raise so much money.
+1000
"It became necessary to destroy the [church] to save it."
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
mercyngrace wrote:Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in verbose verse is hardly clever. It's an excuse for wit and anyone with a thesaurus can do it. (Example provided.)
Ahem: "Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in circumlocutory composition is the converse of clever." (Sorry 'bout that -- I just thought your example exhibited too much wit and too little thesaurus.)
mercyngrace wrote:Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in verbose verse is hardly clever. It's an excuse for wit and anyone with a thesaurus can do it. (Example provided.)
Ahem: "Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in circumlocutory composition is the converse of clever." (Sorry 'bout that -- I just thought your example exhibited too much wit and too little thesaurus.)
Well, you certainly got enough thesaurus in that one. :-)
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."