More Pieces of the Dehlin Debacle Puzzle

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Re: More Pieces of the Dehlin Debacle Puzzle

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Kishkumen wrote:I have no reason to believe that any General Authority has read the paper.

The General Authority, I'm told, has confirmed to some associates that he read portions of the paper.
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Kishkumen wrote:Of course, we don't know whether it was or not, but we do know that Louis Midgley got in Dehlin's face and shouted at him this crazy accusation that could have only been generated through the kind of opposition research that would have made Lee Atwater salivate back in the day.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:Here's my question: Why are the people at Patheos allowing him to do this stuff? They need to kick him off and let him carry on with this sort of thing without their endorsement. He's going to wind up dragging them down, too.


Isn't Patheos supposed to be about discussions of faith? This is about Dan's personal grudges and political goings-on at the Maxwell Institute, not about faith.
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It was recorded on video, so it's not just John's "story," much less a fabrication.


Uh huh, and you've seen that video, correct, just as you've read Greg Smiths essay, correct?

Could you link me to the video, please? Is it up at the Mormonstories site?
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Droopy wrote:
It was recorded on video, so it's not just John's "story," much less a fabrication.


Uh huh, and you've seen that video, correct, just as you've read Greg Smiths essay, correct?

Could you link me to the video, please? Is it up at the Mormonstories site?


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Droopy wrote:Uh huh, and you've seen that video, correct, just as you've read Greg Smiths essay, correct?

Could you link me to the video, please? Is it up at the Mormonstories site?


I'm not giving away my sources. idiot.

Why are you bringing up Greg Smith's essay? I haven't read it, nor have I claimed to.
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Could someone give me some insight into how anyone, in their right mind, could try and place any blame on Dehlin for the death of these missionaries? From the story it appears they were on the boat going to obtain a birth certificate for a wedding. How could Dehlin possibly be to blame?
These people are insane.

The four had been returning to the town of Panajachel from the village of San Pedro la Laguna, 40 miles northwest of Guatemala City, after picking up birth certificates for a wedding, LeFevre said.


http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-09/local/me-276_1_laguna-hills
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Re: More Pieces of the Dehlin Debacle Puzzle

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Willy Law wrote:Could someone give me some insight into how anyone, in their right mind, could try and place any blame on Dehlin for the death of these missionaries? From the story it appears they were on the boat going to obtain a birth certificate for a wedding. How could Dehlin possibly be to blame?
These people are insane.


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Willy Law wrote:Could someone give me some insight into how anyone, in their right mind, could try and place any blame on Dehlin for the death of these missionaries? From the story it appears they were on the boat going to obtain a birth certificate for a wedding. How could Dehlin possibly be to blame?
These people are insane.

The four had been returning to the town of Panajachel from the village of San Pedro la Laguna, 40 miles northwest of Guatemala City, after picking up birth certificates for a wedding, LeFevre said.


http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-09/local/me-276_1_laguna-hills


Exactly.

It is rumoured that Midgely also demanded to know Dehlins whereabouts in November 1963.
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Willy Law wrote:Could someone give me some insight into how anyone, in their right mind, could try and place any blame on Dehlin for the death of these missionaries? From the story it appears they were on the boat going to obtain a birth certificate for a wedding. How could Dehlin possibly be to blame?
These people are insane.


Sheesh, at least the Paul Pry stuff with Grant Palmer had some element of truth to it. This reminds more of when they were trying to accuse Michael Quinn of cruising gay bars in Utah while teaching at BYU.
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