Failure of the Faithful

[_Wisdom Seeker]

There was a one-day (24 hour) goal of indexing 5 million census records this past Sunday evening until Monday evening.

Many are optimistic that indexing the 1940 census will make countless names available for proxy baptism, but as long as the 110 years rule is in affect, I think very few names will actually become available. by the way the 110 years rule is a person can only do the work for their immediate family unless they were born over 110 years ago. This is volunteer work given to LDS faithful that eventually helps out the for-profit companies that sell access to indexed ancestry records.

[_Drifting]

There was a one-day (24 hour) goal of indexing 5 million census records this past Sunday evening until Monday evening.

Many are optimistic that indexing the 1940 census will make countless names available for proxy baptism, but as long as the 110 years rule is in affect, I think very few names will actually become available. by the way the 110 years rule is a person can only do the work for their immediate family unless they were born over 110 years ago. This is volunteer work given to LDS faithful that eventually helps out the for-profit companies that sell access to indexed ancestry records.

Can you show that the results of indexing are used by for profit companies as a way of signing income?

[_Wisdom Seeker]

Individual members of the LDS church do own large shares of for-profit genealogical record keeping companies. Including websites, software and other related services. The LDS church does have an interest in these companies in terms of providing names that can be used in the temple.

The church is sponsoring and providing free labor so that deceased ancestor names can be found for proxy work. This free labor also improves the bottom-line of these for-profit businesses which are owned by members who pay tithing and donate to the church.

[_Themis]

It amazes me how at one time I thought highly of this practice. It just seems so silly now and another of so many signs of a man-made organization that can't get away from many of Joseph's dumb ideas.

[_Themis]

Why use names? God knows everybody, right?

So one American male and one Americam female could nip down to the temple and be baptised for and in behalf of 'everyone who died in America without being a member prior to 2012'

Repeat this annually for every country and bingo, job done!

I remember a missionary who blessed all his food in his mourning prayer for the day. I like your thinking, but it just shows again how silly the whole thing is.

[_Drifting]

Individual members of the LDS church do own large shares of for-profit genealogical record keeping companies. Including websites, software and other related services. The LDS church does have an interest in these companies in terms of providing names that can be used in the temple.

The church is sponsoring and providing free labor so that deceased ancestor names can be found for proxy work. This free labor also improves the bottom-line of these for-profit businesses which are owned by members who pay tithing and donate to the church.

I'm not getting it.

If the indexing work ended up as a database for Ancestry.com etc then I'd get it. But it ends up on family search which is provided foc.

[_Wisdom Seeker]

I'm not getting it.

If the indexing work ended up as a database for Ancestry.com etc then I'd get it. But it ends up on family search which is provided foc.

Indexing the 1940's U.S. census has to be a monumental task. Each hand-written record is viewed by multiple people to make sure they get the correct spelling right. Very little of it can be simple done by computer and OCR. Seeing how this record was just released by the U.S. archives department in April of this year, and primarily LDS volunteers indexing it, how else would Ancestry.com have what they already have on their website without the free labor provided by LDS volunteers?

[_Drifting]

I'm not getting it.

If the indexing work ended up as a database for Ancestry.com etc then I'd get it. But it ends up on family search which is provided foc.

Indexing the 1940's U.S. census has to be a monumental task. Each hand-written record is viewed by multiple people to make sure they get the correct spelling right. Very little of it can be simple done by computer and OCR. Seeing how this record was just released by the U.S. archives department in April of this year, and primarily LDS volunteers indexing it, how else would Ancestry.com have what they already have on their website without the free labor provided by LDS volunteers?

I understand the speculation, but speculation doesn't make it so.
Can you show that's what happens?
(I would be happy if you could)

[_Wisdom Seeker]

I understand the speculation, but speculation doesn't make it so.
Can you show that's what happens?
(I would be happy if you could)

It is speculation, but here are some bread crumbs.

The goal of 5 million names as discussed on Facebook: http://www.Facebook.com/familysearchind ... 6194804156
http://www.Facebook.com/events/156608427806812/

If you will notice on this website:
https://familysearch.org/1940census/?ci ... 940Text_v2

and finally:
http://inflection.com/slope/corporate-a ... escom.html

[_son of Ishmael]

I don't see the point of baptism for the dead. If the dead want to be baptized, they should reveal themselves and ask for it. Otherwise, the resources and time would be better spent helping the living that are suffering and need food, clothing, shelter and other help.

Hey! Tobin and I agree on something for the second time. I don't remember what the first time was about...