Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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_RayAgostini

Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Chap wrote:Nope - I agree that Schryver has only claimed that ONE aspect of of his posts - and of all subsequent quotations from them - is the result of forgery by wicked moderators on this board...


Let me know when you get back to reality.

He has claimed no such thing, and never placed any blame on the "wicked moderators on this board".

You must be due for a methadone hit by now? No?
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Chap wrote:
Like I said, leave her out of it. Delete the posts that refer to her. Have done, man!


Hi, Hero,

You and your buddies here are the ones who've been insulting, condemning, ostracising and demonising her husband.

Quit the hero theatrics!
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Oh so now Schryver, to your mind, is a victim?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, good luck trying to find credibility anytime in the near future there Ray. Schryver needs no one to demonize or insult him. He is his own worst public relations nightmare every time he speaks. You hand wave all the evidence aside because you obviously share Schryver's resentment towards harmony, so you claim it is all in good fun for you two so you can ignore the misogyny. And then you have the audacity to revert back to the poor persecuted Mormons gambit, making everyone a victim so long as they've been critiqued by people you despise. Yeah, no bias there Ray!

You've shown that you're beyond reasoning with. Evidence doesn't seem to mean a damn thing to you. It is as if you think defending Schryver no matter what, is going to somehow earn you more brownie points with Dan Peterson or something. But then again, it probably will.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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I feel sorry for you, Kevin, and that's why I won't attack you anymore. I could say so much more, but out of charity, I'll desist.

I hope you, and your wife and children are doing well.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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RayAgostini wrote:
Chap wrote:Nope - I agree that Schryver has only claimed that ONE aspect of of his posts - and of all subsequent quotations from them - is the result of forgery by wicked moderators on this board...

He has claimed no such thing, and never placed any blame on the "wicked moderators on this board".

If you don't want to take Chap's word for it, then please just have a look at Will's own words:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/582 ... 1209140267
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Dr. Shades wrote:If you don't want to take Chap's word for it, then please just have a look at Will's own words:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/582 ... 1209140267


He doesn't place blame on any moderator, or moderators here, unless you can specifically show me otherwise.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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RayAgostini wrote:
Chap wrote:
Can we leave Schryver's wife out of this, please? I don't think she has ever posted here, and she has sought no publicity in the world of online Mopologetics.


Will has mentioned her several times. But I don't want to drag her into this, either.


And yet you were the poster who did drag her into it.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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RayAgostini wrote:I feel sorry for you, Kevin, and that's why I won't attack you anymore. I could say so much more, but out of charity, I'll desist.

I hope you, and your wife and children are doing well.


So you're going to stop attacking Kevin? It's probably for the best that you don't attack him anymore even though you have so much more you could add but it appears that you've elected to apply charity for now.

I wonder how long this will last, Ray. 2 days? 3?

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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RayAgostini wrote:
Chap wrote:
Like I said, leave her out of it. Delete the posts that refer to her. Have done, man!


Hi, Hero,

You and your buddies here are the ones who've been insulting, condemning, ostracising and demonising her husband.

Quit the hero theatrics!


Leave the wife out of it. Just do it.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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RayAgostini wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:If you don't want to take Chap's word for it, then please just have a look at Will's own words:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/582 ... 1209140267


He doesn't place blame on any moderator, or moderators here, unless you can specifically show me otherwise.


This is what Schryver said, as I posted it (yet again) above:

Schryver wrote:I originally wrote "wench" and it was subsequently altered (by someone with moderator capabilities) in the original post and also in any post that quoted it. For months they tried to get me to admit to saying that, and I consistently denied it, knowing I had not written such a thing. Then, almost magically one day, they produced a quote. And I was therefore, I felt at the time, compelled to issue an apology for it. Only later did I discover the evidence that it was a forgery. I will soon describe in some detail this and the other methods of propaganda legerdemain employed in the campaign by Mormon apostates to silence my apologetic articles and presentations.


The posts referred to were posts on this board.

The post on this board were, accuses Schryver, "altered (by someone with moderator capabilities)".

The people with moderator capabilities on this board enabling them to alter posts on this board, who are accused of committing this act of forgery are ... the moderators of this board..

Is Ray's brain completely out of action?
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I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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