gdemetz wrote:I don't believe that it is that simple. Did you read Jo's post regarding that?
Should I take Jo's interpretation or the words of the actual scripture produced by God speaking directly to Joseph Smith the Prophet?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
gdemetz wrote:I think many have misinterpreted that passage.
Including Jo perhaps...
How can one misinterpret words given to the Prophet directly from God and written down in black and white in plain English?
You must also bear in mind that that scripture has been witnessed to be true by the Holy Ghost to most members.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
gdemetz wrote:That's the problem. I don't think it was written so plainly.
26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they commit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.
It's very plain/ 1. Get a temple marriage. 2. Commit any sin accept shedding innocent blood. 3. You still enter in to your exaltation. 4. But you are subject to Satan's buffetings in this life.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
You forgetting the principle of repentance there. Do you really think that God meant that one could keep on stealing and not repent and the Lord would save him just because he had a temple marriage?!?
gdemetz wrote:You forgetting the principle of repentance there. Do you really think that God meant that one could keep on stealing and not repent and the Lord would save him just because he had a temple marriage?!?
I'm not forgetting it, but it seems God did when He gave that Revelation directly to Joseph Smith. A deal is a deal. You cannot go back and change a deal once it has been signed up to just because you forgot to write an important clause in.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
gdemetz wrote:One needs to take in consideration ALL the "deals" and agreements.
That's not what it says. If it said "notwithstanding all other criteria written before and after this revelation" then fair enough. But it doesn't. It is clear and explicit. It is exactly aligned with the terms of the Second Annointing.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting, you have to take everything in context. The scritures also state that the Lord saveth such as have a contrite spirit. So, if your wive fusses at you and you are contrite, does that mean you are saved?!? One thing that is required in putting the great puzzle of scriptures together is common sense.