New Intel: The Decline of Pres. Monson

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Re: New Intel: The Decline of Pres. Monson

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KevinSim wrote:
harmony wrote:They are not going to tell the members anything, ever. #1 of the only option that will ever be considered.

Gordon Hinckley announced to the general membership when Howard Hunter's cancer went into his bones. What would keep Henry Eyring from saying anything about Monson's alleged Alzheimers?


I may be wrong, but as dreadful as cancer is, it didn't remove Hunter's mental faculties. Alzheimer's on the other hand...
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Drifting wrote:I may be wrong, but as dreadful as cancer is, it didn't remove Hunter's mental faculties. Alzheimer's on the other hand...

I still think that in the atmosphere that Gordon Hinckley created, if Monson actually had Alzheimer's, Henry Eyring would announce it.

It was clear to all who watched that Spencer Kimball was incapacitated mentally the last four years of his administration, and nobody really minded the leadership of his Second Counselor; why would Eyring be afraid to mention an Alzheimer diagnosis in today's LDS Church?
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KevinSim wrote:
Drifting wrote:I may be wrong, but as dreadful as cancer is, it didn't remove Hunter's mental faculties. Alzheimer's on the other hand...

I still think that in the atmosphere that Gordon Hinckley created, if Monson actually had Alzheimer's, Henry Eyring would announce it.

It was clear to all who watched that Spencer Kimball was incapacitated mentally the last four years of his administration, and nobody really minded the leadership of his Second Counselor; why would Eyring be afraid to mention an Alzheimer diagnosis in today's LDS Church?


Because the prophet can never lead the church astray. A prophet suffering dementia or some other form of brain illness that affects cognitive or decision making ability seems to contradict that. Acknowledging the problem might raise questions in some people's minds about who is leading the church that a prophet with brain cancer wouldn't. The members of the Qo12 are very conservative and unlikely to do or say anything that would intentionally cause doubt in the members.

Therefore, I think it's most likely that they would keep it quiet until the news became impossible to suppress.
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Why not just spend a few hundred million on a life like robot of Thomas?

Boyd could control him from his iPad.
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Why not just spend a few hundred million on a life like robot of Thomas?

Boyd could control him from his iPad.


When my grandpa was Packer's age he couldn't figure out the remote control. What are the chances that Packer could run the automoThom without help?
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Tobin wrote:Of course, there is option 3. God could give them all Alzheimers as the same time, then they are completely screwed.

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sansfoy wrote:Because the prophet can never lead the church astray. A prophet suffering dementia or some other form of brain illness that affects cognitive or decision making ability seems to contradict that.

Why do you think so? That's the reason for presidencies in the LDS Church, so that if one man is incapacitated his counselors can shoulder the burden of the job. When God calls someone, He does so knowing what might happen to that someone, including the chance the someone will contract Alzheimer's, and if God chooses someone who has a high likelihood of getting Alzheimer's, then that means God knows ahead of time that contracting that disease won't significantly affect the message that presidency will get out to the general membership.

sansfoy wrote:Acknowledging the problem might raise questions in some people's minds about who is leading the church that a prophet with brain cancer wouldn't.

1981 to 1985 it was abundantly clear that Gordon Hinckley and Gordon Hinckley alone was who was running the Church. Nobody had a big problem with that. Why should the First Presidency have any problem announcing that Thomas Monson was incapacitated due to Alzheimer's (assuming he actually was incapacitated by that disease), and that therefore Eyring and Uchtdorf were going to run the church for the rest of Monson's life?
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KevinSim wrote:1981 to 1985 it was abundantly clear that Gordon Hinckley and Gordon Hinckley alone was who was running the Church. Nobody had a big problem with that. Why should the First Presidency have any problem announcing that Thomas Monson was incapacitated due to Alzheimer's (assuming he actually was incapacitated by that disease), and that therefore Eyring and Uchtdorf were going to run the church for the rest of Monson's life?


Monsons Alzheimer's, if real, has been announced already on ths board.
If Monson has Alzheimer's then the Church is currently keeping it a secret. One has to ask why?

There are two dates coming up at which the cat, if there is a cat, will be out if he bag. Monsons birthday bash in August and Conference in October. Even with great stage management, his illness will be here for all to see.
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Drifting wrote:Monsons Alzheimer's, if real, has been announced already on ths board.
If Monson has Alzheimer's then the Church is currently keeping it a secret. One has to ask why?


Because that's always the Brethren's first response: keep it secret. The members are on a Need To Know basis and guess what... we don't need to know anything about anything. They treat us like children and we react by allowing them to get away with it.
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