Is Misogyny Alive and Well With Some TBMs?

[_EAllusion]

Speaking of which, math and math heavy scientific disciplines are the last bastion of academia where woman do not, if not dominate, at least hold a majority. As woman have overtaken every other area of academia, what has happened is that women have outperformed men in secondary education, then grad school, and finally doctorates. The math disciplines have followed this trend as well, and now girls are destroying boys in math in secondary school and also outperforming at the undergraduate level. It's only a matter of a short while before they overtake that area of academia too if things continue as they are. I view this as a borderline crisis in how education is happening in the country, and I doubt Droopy is willing to argue this is simply because women are biologically predetermined to be intellectually superior to men on average. Point that out, and you might get social influence Droopy yet.

[_zeezrom]

Men in ancient Egypt wore skirts.

So did men all over Europe up until about the mid 17th century.

[_just me]

Men in ancient Egypt wore skirts.

So did men all over Europe up until about the mid 17th century.

And remember all those robe wearing people in the East...

[_madeleine]

Speaking of which, math and math heavy scientific disciplines are the last bastion of academia where woman do not, if not dominate, at least hold a majority. As woman have overtaken every other area of academia, what has happened is that women have outperformed men in secondary education, then grad school, and finally doctorates. The math disciplines have followed this trend as well, and now girls are destroying boys in math in secondary school and also outperforming at the undergraduate level. It's only a matter of a short while before they overtake that area of academia too if things continue as they are. I view this as a borderline crisis in how education is happening in the country, and I doubt Droopy is willing to argue this is simply because women are biologically predetermined to be intellectually superior to men on average. Point that out, and you might get social influence Droopy yet.

I work in a technology field, and have for my whole adult life. The first Microsoft conference I attended, I estimated the ratio of women there was 1:100. The more recent conferences I attend, it is more around 10:100. Discouraging. But it has gotten better. In the mid 80's we were hiring an additional sys admin, one of the candidates made the comment to me that he had never met a sys admin who didn't have a beard.

:/

File that under "things to not say in a job interview".

[_just me]

You know, there are matriarchal cultures out there. Weird, I know. I guess Droopy thinks "serious anthropologists" deny their existence.

It is my understanding that there are no, and have been no, actual matriarchal cultures. There have been cultures that are neither patriarchal or matriarchal. There have been cultures that are matrilineal.

Do you know of any cultures that have been called matriarchal? I'd like to read about it.

{quote]I, for one, am curious as to what immutable sexual differences exist between men and women across the world in Droopy's view. Men are better at math and women child rearing? What, specifically does he have in mind?

I would like to see the answer to this as well!

[_zeezrom]

And remember all those robe wearing people in the East...

And lungis! I still own a lungi. I love it.

[_Darth J]

Men in ancient Egypt wore skirts.

So did men all over Europe up until about the mid 17th century.

I think you have a legitimate point about misandry, by the way. It's not just clothes. Try being a single dad and going to church. LDS culture has a hard time wrapping its metaphorical brain around the idea that a dad would be raising the kids. That's what moms are supposed to do, you know.

[_Darth J]

In the mid 80's we were hiring an additional sys admin, one of the candidates made the comment to me that he had never met a sys admin who didn't have a beard.

:/

File that under "things to not say in a job interview".

Maybe you misunderstood his comment. Maybe he never met a sys admin who wasn't a closeted gay and had a female friend to cover for him.

[_just me]

I think you have a legitimate point about misandry, by the way. It's not just clothes. Try being a single dad and going to church. LDS culture has a hard time wrapping its metaphorical brain around the idea that a dad would be raising the kids. That's what moms are supposed to do, you know.

Ugh. I still think what you guys are describing distills back to men doing "feminine" or womanly things. That is not misandry.

This is an example of misandry in the church: The prevailing attitude that men are all potential rapist and molesters. They are not to be trusted alone with children. Unless, of course, it is the bishop.

[_Darth J]

I think you have a legitimate point about misandry, by the way. It's not just clothes. Try being a single dad and going to church. LDS culture has a hard time wrapping its metaphorical brain around the idea that a dad would be raising the kids. That's what moms are supposed to do, you know.

Ugh. I still think what you guys are describing distills back to men doing "feminine" or womanly things. That is not misandry.

This is an example of misandry in the church: The prevailing attitude that men are all potential rapist and molesters. They are not to be trusted alone with children. Unless, of course, it is the bishop.

That is an excellent example.