Joseph Smith wrote witnesses statement

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No, it is not wonderful Darth. You are deceiving yourself. The scriptures state clearly that it must be ratified by the Holy Spirit, and I have a hard time believing that you could be so naïve as to believe that the Holy Spirit would ratify a sealing to an anti!
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gdemetz wrote:No, it is not wonderful Darth. You are deceiving yourself. The scriptures state clearly that it must be ratified by the Holy Spirit, and I have a hard time believing that you could be so naïve as to believe that the Holy Spirit would ratify a sealing to an anti!


I wasn't an anti- when I was sealed, gdemetz. The Spirit ratified my sealing at the time I was sealed, when I was a believer. The Lord specifically said I can commit all manner of blasphemies, and my having been sealed before the fact Trump's all of it. Sweet! I can't wait to be a god! I hope my planet I get to rule is in the same galaxy as yours, gdemetz. Then maybe we can visit each other!
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Darth J wrote:
gdemetz wrote:No, it is not wonderful Darth. You are deceiving yourself. The scriptures state clearly that it must be ratified by the Holy Spirit, and I have a hard time believing that you could be so naïve as to believe that the Holy Spirit would ratify a sealing to an anti!


I wasn't an anti- when I was sealed, gdemetz. The Spirit ratified my sealing at the time I was sealed, when I was a believer. The Lord specifically said I can commit all manner of blasphemies, and my having been sealed before the fact Trump's all of it. Sweet! I can't wait to be a god! I hope my planet I get to rule is in the same galaxy as yours, gdemetz. Then maybe we can visit each other!


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Lud, you need to stick to cartoons! You guys are really naïve if you think the Holy Spirit will not revoke that sealing, if He ever gave it in the first place! Remember God knows all things from befinning to end. All things are present to God. Don't let Satan keep deceiving you!
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gdemetz,

according to David Whitmer, followers of J. Smith must not be "living sufficiently spiritual to discern between truth and error". So that's your problem. You just aren't spiritual enough.

See his address to Believers in the Book of Mormon.

He says the spirit of God led him to write the address to people such as yourself.
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Think Marg. Whitmer was an apostate., and what if Judas said the same thing?!
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gdemetz wrote:Think Marg. Whitmer was an apostate., and what if Judas said the same thing?!


Gdemetz, what is the basis for saying that Whitmer was an apostate, when his testimony---which he never denied to his dying day---was that God have given him authority, and it was Joseph Smith who was apostate?

How do you know you don't have it backwards about who was the apostate?
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You amaze me Darth! That's like saying that Judas was not an apostate, but the apostate was Christ!
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Darth J wrote:Gdemetz, what is the basis for saying that Whitmer was an apostate, when his testimony---which he never denied to his dying day---was that God have given him authority, and it was Joseph Smith who was apostate?

How do you know you don't have it backwards about who was the apostate?


These guys are saying that Gerald Bradford is a tool of the apostates, calling Brian Hauglid and David Bokovoy traitors, and attacking a General Authority for giving John Dehlin the time of day. Do you really think they care who is an apostate or not? If someone is useful to them they are faithful and if not, they are apostates.
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gdemetz wrote:You amaze me Darth! That's like saying that Judas was not an apostate, but the apostate was Christ!


What?? Joseph Smith was not Jesus unless you believe Hinckley's slip was freudian.
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