Kids who die before age 8 DON'T automatically go to the C.K.

[_Tobin]

Let me point out one thing: your personal ideas about religion are 100% irrelevant to this thread. The OP is discussing the ramifications of LDS doctrine (not Tobin doctrine) in light of real-world infant mortality estimates and the LDS teaching that ALL children who die before the age of accountability are guaranteed to go to the Celestial Kingdom.

Exactly.

Tobin, please refrain from further derailing this thread.

I'm not derailing the thread. I have pointed out repeatedly why your views of the Gospel are incorrect and so your premise is completely false. You can not possibly think you can reach the conclusion like "Men will have to share their Wives in the CK" is correct, if you start off with a false premise.

[_beastie]

Tobin, please refrain from further derailing this thread.

The 'report' button is beckoning ...

Good advice and done. Clearly Tobin will persist despite my polite request to stop.

[_Chap]

...

Tobin, please refrain from further derailing this thread.

I'm not derailing the thread.

Yes you are.

The topic is not your own one-man interpretation of Mormonism, but the official teachings of the CoJCoLDS, which have been repeatedly evidenced on this thread and which have been drawn to your attention with (in my view) excessive politeness.

[_Tobin]

The 'report' button is beckoning ...

Good advice and done. Clearly Tobin will persist despite my polite request to stop.

You are being completely unreasonable. Your thread is titled, "Why Men Will Have to Share Their Wives in the CK". I have simply pointed out that they will not because there is no implied imbalance in Mormon doctrine that there be more men than women. This is due to the fact that everyone will be tested and tried equally by the Lord, before they can be exalted and enter the CK.

[_Chap]

Beastie is the writer of the OP. As her OP clearly implied, and as she stated after the first of your repetitive interventions

I'm not framing this discussing using the rules of Tobin's unique religion, but thank you for demonstrating the willingness to throw the babies under the bus. I'm framing this discussion using the actual teachings of the LDS church.

[_Darth J]

/irrelevancies

/more irrelevancies

Reading Comprehension Problems

There is reliable evidence that reading comprehension difficulty occurs frequently in children who are actually good decoders and spellers. The breakdown in reading comprehension can occur for any number of reasons, several of which are detailed below.

It's important to understand that for a child to adequately comprehend an author's written message it requires them to be able to analyze and sort through multiple layers of text meaning.

For simplicity's sake I've broken those layers down to four separate processes.

First, to properly comprehend a written passage a child must be able to decode the words on the page.

Second, the child needs to hold the information in working memory long enough for the information to be more extensively processed.

Third, the child must have adequate vocabulary, grammar and syntactical skills to organize and interpret the written message efficiently.

Fourth, the child needs to access higher order thinking skills to process the written message and go beyond the surface layer of the text and infer possible meaning.

If a breakdown occurs in one or more of these steps then the child may fail to grasp the meaning of the text, which often results in reading comprehension problems and failure.

[_Themis]

You are being completely unreasonable. Your thread is titled, "Why Men Will Have to Share Their Wives in the CK". I have simply pointed out that they will not because there is no implied imbalance in Mormon doctrine that there be more men than women. This is due to the fact that everyone will be tested and tried equally by the Lord, before they can be exalted and enter the CK.

It's already been demonstrated what the church's teaches on the issue, and directly from Joseph Smith as well. That is the premise of the OP. We all know how you feel about it and that's fine, but that is not the topic here.

[_Ludd]

Where is Droopy to pin a big red "A" on Tobin for us?

Tobin is clearly teaching the philosophies of men (him) mingled with scripture.

But he's not hardly the only Mormon who has his own set of personal doctrines on these "hard questions" of Mormonism.

There was a guy in the stake I grew up in who was supposedly one of the most doctrinally knowledgeable people ever to walk the earth (Patriarch, Mission Pres, Stake Pres). I asked him about this men/women ratio problem in the CK. He said that all the males who died before 8 would be angels-only in the CK, but that the females would be resurrected with "a full set of equipment under the hood" in order to "bear the souls of men" (and women also, I presume). He said the only men who would procreate in the CK had to have been married in mortality and sealed to his wife and all that jazz. I don't remember if he said it was good enough to get the sealing via proxy after you were dead. I seem to remember it that you actually had to have been married and sealed while on the earth "by the Priesthood".

So there you have it.

I think things like this must be in an "addendum" you receive when you get your second annointing.

[_Nightlion]

Where is Droopy to pin a big red "A" on Tobin for us?

Tobin is clearly teaching the philosophies of men (him) mingled with scripture.

But he's not hardly the only Mormon who has his own set of personal doctrines on these "hard questions" of Mormonism.

There was a guy in the stake I grew up in who was supposedly one of the most doctrinally knowledgeable people ever to walk the earth (Patriarch, Mission Pres, Stake Pres). I asked him about this men/women ratio problem in the CK. He said that all the males who died before 8 would be angels-only in the CK, but that the females would be resurrected with "a full set of equipment under the hood" in order to "bear the souls of men" (and women also, I presume). He said the only men who would procreate in the CK had to have been married in mortality and sealed to his wife and all that jazz. I don't remember if he said it was good enough to get the sealing via proxy after you were dead. I seem to remember it that you actually had to have been married and sealed while on the earth "by the Priesthood".

So there you have it.

I think things like this must be in an "addendum" you receive when you get your second annointing.

You accepted this obvious lechery that women get raised equipped and men are out of luck?
LOL I never met a Mormon high or low who knew beans. All pretense to the contrary duly noted.

[_Tobin]

Where is Droopy to pin a big red "A" on Tobin for us?

Tobin is clearly teaching the philosophies of men (him) mingled with scripture.

But he's not hardly the only Mormon who has his own set of personal doctrines on these "hard questions" of Mormonism.

There was a guy in the stake I grew up in who was supposedly one of the most doctrinally knowledgeable people ever to walk the earth (Patriarch, Mission Pres, Stake Pres). I asked him about this men/women ratio problem in the CK. He said that all the males who died before 8 would be angels-only in the CK, but that the females would be resurrected with "a full set of equipment under the hood" in order to "bear the souls of men" (and women also, I presume). He said the only men who would procreate in the CK had to have been married in mortality and sealed to his wife and all that jazz. I don't remember if he said it was good enough to get the sealing via proxy after you were dead. I seem to remember it that you actually had to have been married and sealed while on the earth "by the Priesthood".

So there you have it.

I think things like this must be in an "addendum" you receive when you get your second annointing.

Hardly. To believe God is equitable, fair and just is not the doctrines of men. To believe, because the scriptures and prophets teach it, that all men must be tried and tested, even as Abraham was, by the Lord before they can be exalted and enter the CK is not the doctrines of men. I am simply pointing out that this idea that fetuses are automatically resurrected, exalted, and enter the CK is pure non-sense. It is simply not part of the gospel.