Can Momrons Call Cher a Bigot?
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After all this fuss I bet Cher wishes she could turn back time...
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son of Ishmael wrote:...that they would never say about other bogus religions like Islam
Why put the word bogus in there? Are you saying there are more qualified religions out there?
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son of Ishmael wrote:Israel is often criticized by the left but not Judaism so much.
Criticism of the institution is not what's happening here. I already gave an example of silly Jewish beliefs (can't eat shrimp or cheeseburgers, can't pick up sticks on Saturday, etc.) being ridiculed. That's what Cher did with the "magic underwear" mention -- made fun of a silly Mormon belief. I don't know of anything she has ever said about the character of Mormons or disliking Mormonism in general.
Surely you don't think Cher dislikes Romney because he is LDS. If so, you must have difficulty explaining her comments about W, and her support of Harry Reid. I haven't seen her dissing any of the several Mormons from the dancing show her son was on, or any Mormon actors or singers.
I think her comments are not politically correct or nice. But rudeness is definitely not bigotry.
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KevinSim wrote:keithb wrote:Also, I think that the Mormon church has been and continues to be racist, misogynistic, and homophobic.
Keithb, why do you say that the LDS Church continues to be racist?keithb wrote:However, that doesn't justify (or really have anything to do with) Cher's anti-Mormon tweet against Romney and Mormons calling her out on it.
Agreed.
Just saw your post, Kevin.
The Mormon church CONTINUES to be racist because the reasoning behind why blacks were denied the priesthood was, at least to my knowledge, never repudiated by the Mormon church. While the church stopped the practice of denying people the priesthood based on skin color, they never recanted the statements/teachings that such practices were based on the actions of these people in the "pre-Earth life". So, they still teach that an entire group of people is inferior to another group of people and that inferiority is associated with the color of their skin.
That's racist in my book.
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zeezrom wrote:son of Ishmael wrote:...that they would never say about other bogus religions like Islam
Why put the word bogus in there? Are you saying there are more qualified religions out there?
That is a good point. All religions are bogus
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krose wrote:son of Ishmael wrote:Israel is often criticized by the left but not Judaism so much.
Criticism of the institution is not what's happening here. I already gave an example of silly Jewish beliefs (can't eat shrimp or cheeseburgers, can't pick up sticks on Saturday, etc.) being ridiculed. That's what Cher did with the "magic underwear" mention -- made fun of a silly Mormon belief. I don't know of anything she has ever said about the character of Mormons or disliking Mormonism in general.
Surely you don't think Cher dislikes Romney because he is LDS. If so, you must have difficulty explaining her comments about W, and her support of Harry Reid. I haven't seen her dissing any of the several Mormons from the dancing show her son was on, or any Mormon actors or singers.
I think her comments are not politically correct or nice. But rudeness is definitely not bigotry.
Do you think Cher would ever make fun of a Muslim woman wearing a burqa?
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son of Ishmael wrote:I am no fan of the Mormon Church but people like Cher make all kinds of statements about the church that they would never say about other bogus religions like Islam
agree.
for another example, the Sikh kacchera is very analogous to the Mormon garment. if a Sikh man were running on the GOP ticket, would good liberals stoop to mocking his 'holy underwear'? i doubt it.
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son of Ishmael wrote:Do you think Cher would ever make fun of a Muslim woman wearing a burqa?
can't agree with you in this case -- in my experience on political message boards, liberals have no problem at all going after islamic fundamentalism, especially in areas where women and gays are affected. what you're posing here is a rightwing strawman, in my opinion.
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son of Ishmael wrote:Israel is often criticized by the left but not Judaism so much.
wait, you mean they're not one and the same thing?!
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palerobber wrote:son of Ishmael wrote:I am no fan of the Mormon Church but people like Cher make all kinds of statements about the church that they would never say about other bogus religions like Islam
agree.
for another example, the Sikh kacchera is very analogous to the Mormon garment. if a Sikh man were running on the GOP ticket, would good liberals stoop to mocking his 'holy underwear'? i doubt it.
Better example than the burqa...
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