MsJack wrote:"Ludd" ~ Plenty of "normal people outside of message boards" have reviewed my thread and decided that William's behavior was unacceptable. Some of them were associated with the Maxwell Institute and made the decision to cancel William's upcoming publications based on it. Argumentum ad populum is already highly fallacious as it is, but in this case, I don't believe the populum you're invoking even exists.
Yes, I made a risqué joke to my personal friend, MrStakhanovite. I did that because I know his sense of humor and I know he's okay with that kind of thing. I would never direct that sort of comment at a stranger on the Internet whom I was having a heated disagreement with. I'm not against occasional bouts of ribald humor with friends. I am against using crude sexual references to debase and deride ideological opponents.
liz3564 wrote:William was in the process of having his Book of Abraham research published through MI. A representative of MI, upon reading the compilation from Ms. Jack's thread, influenced the other members of MI to squash the publication.
MI and BYU must be thanking their lucky stars that Ms Jack compiled the thread. The embarrassment would have been quick and complete, had they actually allowed him to attach his name to something they put out to the public.
Will, on the other hand... well, let's hope he gets published somewhere. I want to see some of our folks have a shot at him... again.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Cylon wrote:In the interest of full disclosure, Dr. Scratch, I think you should also include Hamblin's preface to that statement:
William Hamblin wrote:All one needs to do to see the bigotry on this board is replace the ubiquitous terms Morg and Morgbot with Kike. Try the following on for size:
He's not claiming he has those views about Jews. Omitting his opening statement changes the meaning enough to be misleading. Of course, the fact that he equates "Morgbot" with a racial slur against Jews is, I think, offensive enough.
Eh, I included the link to the original source--I think that's plenty. I've never thought that his disclaimer did much of anything to redeem the rest of his comments, but YMMV.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
I would have preferred that Schryver's article had been published. I know so many scum bucket scholars out there. Their articles are published. What makes this any different? Because it is apologetics? Is moral rectitude necessary to make a good apologetic argument?
My guess is that his article simply sucked. But I guess we'll never know now.
No offense to those whom Schryver offended. Certainly I find him to be a total jackass. But in my opinion this is totally beside the point when it comes to scholarship.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Are you scared about what might happen if your blathering about your Nibley connection gets wider airplay? Would the Brethren be mad if they learned what you said?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
Are you scared about what might happen if your blathering about your Nibley connection gets wider airplay? Would the Brethren be mad if they learned what you said?
The only ones that would be upset are apostate anyway
What is the point of this investigation, anyway? Frankly, I don't care. It looks like a complete waste of time to me. None of us have anything to do with what happened at the Maxwell Institute. MDB played no role in that at all. What happened there was an internal issue.
So, this has all the appearance of a snipe hunt.
Before I waste my time on strangers, including the characters named in the OP, I need a compelling reason to do it.
I have yet to see one offered.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist