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OMG. Best quote from this article,

“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”

Holy s***. Tell that to Mother Teresa or, I dunno, Jesus H. Christ!

That is the dumbest thing I think I have ever heard a moron say. Mormon. I meant Mormon.

And as usual the anti-mormon mind cannot understand basic human nature, reality, facts, etc.

That quote is heavily criticized in the comments section of the Politico site. The Politico readers are flabbergasted by it. It's not just us.

[_Chap]

Mormon 8

  37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.
  38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies—because of the praise of the world?
  39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not?

Stop cherry-picking quotations !!!!!!!!

There are other scriptures which say things like "Behold! I do counsel thee before thou goest shopping that shalt invoke the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit - one, two and even three - to guide thy retail choice to my glory, saith the Lord."

But like all anti-mormons you are too stupid to know about those !!!!!!!****????&&&!!!

[_Drifting]

Teavana offers more than 100 varieties of premium loose-leaf teas, authentic artisanal teawares, and other tea-related merchandise. Teavana offers new tea enthusiasts and tea connoisseurs alike a "Heaven of Tea" retail experience, where passionate and knowledgeable "teaologists" engage and educate about the flavors, tea benefits, wide variety and enjoyment of tea.

Products
Tea, tea pots and tea service accessories, and tea making equipment

One of the stores in City Creek seems to be somewhat at odds with the Word of Wisdom teaching in the corporation that built the shopping center.....

[_TrashcanMan79]

A poor person, who's worrying every day where their next meal will come, or how to feed his children, his LEAST priority is going to be "valiancey" in the Gospel of Christ. He may be good, he may have belief in God, but his priority's most often than not will be on surviving.

A human being must first "survive"..... Spiritual and Gospel things are going to be some of the last things on their mind.

Matthew 6:25,31-34

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

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31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

[_Tim the Enchanter]

This:

“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

Contradicts this:

He {Jeffrey R. Holland} mentioned a principle often taught by the 13th President of the Church, Ezra Taft Benson (1899–1994). “President Benson always said we don’t so much take people out of poverty or take them out of difficult settings as much as we teach them the gospel and they lift their eyes and their vision and they make their own way out of poverty. That principle is true.”

McMullin is saying that if they get out of poverty they will blossom spiritually. Holland is saying if they blossom spiritually they will get out of poverty.

[_DarkHelmet]

This:

“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

Contradicts this:

He {Jeffrey R. Holland} mentioned a principle often taught by the 13th President of the Church, Ezra Taft Benson (1899–1994). “President Benson always said we don’t so much take people out of poverty or take them out of difficult settings as much as we teach them the gospel and they lift their eyes and their vision and they make their own way out of poverty. That principle is true.”

McMullin is saying that if they get out of poverty they will blossom spiritually. Holland is saying if they blossom spiritually they will get out of poverty.

It must suck to feel compelled to defend this, especially when you have conflicting statements from church leaders.

[_harmony]

It must suck to feel compelled to defend this, especially when you have conflicting statements from church leaders.

There is no defense. Not even Droopy is weighing in on it.

[_The Mormon Report]

For your consideration:

New Zealand Mormon Church Finances: A Case Study | kiwimormon.com

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Mormon 8

  37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.

The Mormonism in which I was raised wore the plainness of LDS Chapels as a badge of honor. That was long before they put Moroni statues atop all temples, spires on meeting houses, built the Conference Center, or built the Jesus Mall--before the ascension of GBH the Doctrine Dodger.

[_ldsfaqs]

A poor person, who's worrying every day where their next meal will come, or how to feed his children, his LEAST priority is going to be "valiancey" in the Gospel of Christ. He may be good, he may have belief in God, but his priority's most often than not will be on surviving.

A human being must first "survive"..... Spiritual and Gospel things are going to be some of the last things on their mind.

Matthew 6:25,31-34

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

...

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

When quoting things, you need to learn about this thing called CONTEXT.....

These scriptures are specifically in referrence to those being called as "missionary's", ministers of the Faith. They are not referring to the average person who is trying to survive or ensure his family survives.

As to "Liz's" comments..... I've been poor much of my life also, in fact I'm still poor.
You don't need to tell me that a person can be poor and spiritual.

This issue in question is speaking about a PARTICULAR subsection of humanity, one that has little God in their lives, because they simply don't have time OR energy for Him. Or at minimum, they don't have time to be more valiant in the service of God and I should say OTHERS..... When you are just trying to survive yourself, you tend to have less time and energy for other things. Are you really telling me you can't understand that concept???

Further, you clearly know nothing about what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to have to go to a Construction type job, or otherwise every day, be in pain every single day, having to soak in a tub every single day in order to try and get some relief from the days work (outside of ones washing), IF you are even lucky to have a tub, most aren't.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about..... There most certainly IS a segment of humanity that meets what is being described by the Church. There ARE many who need a lift Temporally before or while they are lifted spiritually!

Step outside of your anti-mormon hatred and learn something for a change!