subgenius wrote:LittleNipper wrote:Three marbles do not commune. Three persons co-exual, eternal, and always existing are a lot different than 3 marbles. Now, if you stated that one marble was made up of three parts, Shape/size, Glass/material, and Color/design --- you might have a better understanding of what Trinitarians believe.
not an accurate description Nip, though i am convinced you have lost a few marbles (inevitable marble zinger).
Your idea that shape/size appeals to color/design for relief is absurd....or that glass/material is doing the will of shape/size is nonsense. Bottom line is that you would use the Nicene creed as doctrine in lieu of actual scriptures.
It is obvious that your
creedal view of God insists on a multiple personality disorder and mine does not.
I see it the same way Joseph Smith Jr saw it when he believe the Nicene Creed
2 Nephi 31:
21And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now,
behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.
Alma 11:
44 Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but everything shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned
before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.
Mormon 7:
7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above,
unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.
The Testimony of Three Witnesses
And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.
Oliver Cowdery
David Whitmer
Martin Harris
Doctrine and Covenants 20 :
28
Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.
Lectures on Faith
Lecture Five 2. There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing, and supreme power over all things, by whom all things were created and made….
They are the Father and the Son: the Father being a personage of spirit, glory, and power, possessing all perfection and fulness.
The Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, is a personage of tabernacle, made or fashioned like unto man,
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All pre-1835 Joseph Smith JR
post 1835
Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute
three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).