The Name of the TRUE Church

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jo1952 wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Sort of off topic but this got me to thinking about the significance of a LIVING God. God is living and breathing right now. Do we realize what this means? It means there is drama in heaven! Let us finally get to the story telling of God's living drama. What is going on with him right now? Forget about the second coming. That is like a thief in the night. No. We don't want to learn more about the acts of thiefs. We want to know about God's passions in the sky. Tell us how it goes down, ye prophets! Who is God secretly wooing? What secret plot is he engineering? What is the status of Heavenly Mother's Coup d'état?


Zeezrom,

It would be best if you go directly to the source; i.e., by personally praying to God. Otherwise, you will be dealing with the opinions of man which will muddy the waters and inhibit your ability to hear Him speak to you. Use the Bible and/or the Book of Mormon as the basis of the questions you are seeking answers to in your prayers.

Blessings,

jo


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jo1952 wrote:Zeezrom,

It would be best if you go directly to the source; i.e., by personally praying to God. Otherwise, you will be dealing with the opinions of man which will muddy the waters and inhibit your ability to hear Him speak to you. Use the Bible and/or the Book of Mormon as the basis of the questions you are seeking answers to in your prayers.

Blessings,

jo


Yes Z, abandon all reason. Don't think too much (very dangerous). Intelligent reasoning is the enemy of mindless devotion. If everyone thought things through, it would be the end of organized religion. We can't have that.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

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jo1952 wrote:Zeezrom,

It would be best if you go directly to the source; i.e., by personally praying to God. Otherwise, you will be dealing with the opinions of man which will muddy the waters and inhibit your ability to hear Him speak to you. Use the Bible and/or the Book of Mormon as the basis of the questions you are seeking answers to in your prayers.

Blessings,

jo

Hi Jo,

Saying that introduction makes me think of "Meet Joe Black", which happens to be a movie I adore. Anyway, I'm so glad to see you respond! I hope all is well with you and your beautiful horses. I have not been on a horse for ages. :(

Anyway, I would like to mention that I received the idea of Heavenly Mother's Coup d'état in just the manner you recommend to me: directly from the source. I got this prized information from the God I worship.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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The Mormon god is not Omniscience

God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end." Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses Vol. 6:120

You can equivocating all you want but that's how Bruce McConkie got in trouble was saying God was Omniscience and suffered the scorn of the Mormon hierachy
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Mittens wrote:The Mormon god is not Omniscience

That is one of God's greatest attributes.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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Mittens wrote:The Mormon god is not Omniscience


Agreed. Reading original LDS scripture, we know that the Mormon God is not a God of grammar.
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That's how McConkie met his Waterloo saying he was

Excerpted from "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power" by D. Michael Quinn
"Jan 7-8, 1960 - First Presidency decides that Bruce R. McConkie’s Mormon Doctrine “must not be re-published, as it is full of errors and misstatements, and it is most unfortunate that it has received such wide circulation.” They are exasperated that McConkie and his publisher released the book without pre-publication publicity or notifying First Presidency. Even his father-in-law, senior apostle, Joseph Fielding Smith, “did not know anything about it until it was published.” This is McConkie’s way to avoid repetition of Presidency’s stopping his pre-announced Sound Doctrine three years earlier.

Committee of two apostles (Mark E Petersen and Marion G Romney) reports that McConkie’s Mormon Doctrine contains 1,067 doctrinal errors. For example, page 493 said: “Those who falsely and erroneously suppose that God is progressing in knowledge and gaining new truths cannot exercise sufficient faith in him to gain salvation until they divest themselves of their false beliefs.” However, McConkie is affirming doctrine of omniscience officially condemned by previous First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in 1865.”
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Morley wrote:
Agreed. Reading original LDS scripture, we know that the Mormon God is not a God of grammar.


Mittens is having a little trouble with that, too. Maybe in reverence to the "Omniscience" God.
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Mittens wrote:That's how McConkie met his Watlerlou saying he was
...
My underline.

Mitt. You're joking, right?
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As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.
Author: Lorenzo Snow
Source: Gospel Through The Ages
Chapter: 43
Page: 105


God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end." Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses Vol. 6:120



W. Cleon Skousen, a former BYU professor, wrote:

Through modern revelation we learn that the universe is filled with vast numbers of intelligences, and we further learn that Elohim is God simply because all of these intelligences honor and sustain Him as such.... But since God 'acquired' the honor and sustaining influence of 'all things' it follows as a corollary that if He should ever do anything to violate the confidence or sense of justice' of these intelligences, they would promptly withdraw their support, and the 'power' of God would disintegrate.... 'He would cease to be God.' Our Heavenly Father can do only those things which the intelligences under Him are voluntarily willing to support Him in accomplishing (The First 2000 Years, pp. 355-356).
Justice = Getting what you deserve
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