Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

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Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

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Doctor Scratch wrote:Perhaps others have heard the news, but the head of the fast-food Chik-Fil-A has been the object of criticism after he declared that he opposes same-sex marriage. In response, some people have begun to withdraw their support and/or to distance themselves from the restaurants.

Not Scott Lloyd, though. Now that he knows that Chik-Fil-A's head honcho embraces discriminatory attitudes, Lloyd has pledged to patronize the restaurant even more frequently:

Scott Lloyd wrote:The head of Chik-fil-A is taking some heatfor his outspoken support of traditional marriage defined as being between a man and a woman.

Some are calling for a boycott of the restaurant chain, persumably as a way to punish the man for speaking his mind on this controversial topic.

Accordingly, I decided today to do my own personal anti-boycott. For the first time in years, I patronized Chik-fil-A today. I noted that the one I visited, in the City Creek shopping center in downtown Salt Lake, was doing a brisk business despite reputed calls for a boycott.

I spent more than is typical with me for lunch.

I was pleased that the experience exceeded my memory. The service was prompt, courteous and friendly. The chicken salad sandwich I ordered was of the highest quality, and the signature waffle fries were hot and tasty. Though I was disappointed they did not offer fry sauce, the Chik-fi-A sauce, a sweet, tangy, barbecue-mustard concotion, was a nice dipping condiment.

I will definitely return.

So why a post here? I think it important in today's marketplace that we support with our business those who share our values. Since its restructuring nearly two years ago, the Deseret News, as it has reached out to a national audience with both its print and on-line products, has made a concerted effort to appeal not just to Latter-day Saints but to "like-minded believers." Just as I hope such folks would reward that effort with their patronage, I would like to do the same for others who are outside my own faith group but who share my values and ideals.


http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/584 ... i-boycott/

Quite interesting! I suppose Lloyd will make sure to take his next vacation in a foreign country that refuses to allow women to attain leadership positions.


Interesting.
I wonder if, prior to 1978, Scott refused to converse and interact with black people unless he was able to do so from a position of skin colour based superiority?
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why me wrote:And he has the right to do so. Now of course, people will refuse to go there because of his stance but these people do not believe in freedom of expression. Sad commentary on american culture and the way people attempt to limit freedom of expression.
Nonsense. Just as Scott's choice to do business with Chik-Fil-A is him exercising his freedom of expression, my choice not to do business with the company is me exercising my freedom of expression.

Additionally, among other things, freedom of expression means you are allowed to express an opinion without government interference. Contrary to your understanding, it also means others are allowed to respond to that opinion without government interference. Otherwise, you are denying those people their freedom of expression.

Expecting that your speech be protected from criticism is NOT freedom of expression.

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why me wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Perhaps others have heard the news, but the head of the fast-food Chik-Fil-A has been the object of criticism after he declared that he opposes same-sex marriage.


And he has the right to do so. Now of course, people will refuse to go there because of his stance but these people do not believe in freedom of expression. Sad commentary on american culture and the way people attempt to limit freedom of expression.

The thought police are out in full force in america.

Failure to join and practice Mormonism impinges on Pres. Monson's freedom of speech.

I see your point.
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I don't know if this is legitimate or not, but it wouldn't surprise me:

http://i.imgur.com/610N5.jpg

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-3117967 ... iling.html

Why does this restaurant chain remind me of the Mopologists?

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lulu wrote:Failure to join and practice Mormonism impinges on Pres. Monson's freedom of speech.

I see your point.


In whyme's mind, freedom of speech is a zero sum game. If I speak freely he is robbed of his freedom of speech. What he wants is freedom from criticism. He will never feel truly free until his words are free from challenge and contradiction.

At least, that is the implication of his words.
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Kishkumen wrote:
lulu wrote:Failure to join and practice Mormonism impinges on Pres. Monson's freedom of speech.

I see your point.


In whyme's mind, freedom of speech is a zero sum game. If I speak freely he is robbed of his freedom of speech. What he wants is freedom from criticism. He will never feel truly free until his words are free from challenge and contradiction.

At least, that is the implication of his words.


So he aspires to be a Church General Authority....
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bcspace wrote: Chik-Fil-A is merely discriminating between good and evil, right and wrong.

False dichotomies, the both of them.
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why me wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Perhaps others have heard the news, but the head of the fast-food Chik-Fil-A has been the object of criticism after he declared that he opposes same-sex marriage.


And he has the right to do so. Now of course, people will refuse to go there because of his stance but these people do not believe in freedom of expression.
"These people" that boycott Chick-Fil-A believe in freedom of expression--the fact that they choose to boycott the place is itself an expression. They are exercising their freedom of expression.

Just when I think that you, why me, cannot say something more inane you go and prove me wrong.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:... Chik-Fil-A's head honcho...

Just an unrelated comment, but honcho happens to be one of very few English words that have been borrowed from Japanese.

However, in Japan a han-cho (that vowel sound is usually transcribed as "a" in Roman letters) is a middle manager, while in English it describes the head guy.
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Darth J wrote:
Blixa wrote:I decided long ago to never eat there because of their stupid name.


It's a pun. I would have thought you would like a restaurant that uses a clever literary device in its name.


Maybe... except it's not clever.
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