Creedal Trinity misunderstood by LDS

[_Mittens]

Mittens, you, Albion, and Nipper are just dancing around the issue of "one Being"! Wikepedia defines the Trinity concept very clearly and correctly, and it is not what you guys are trying to dance around! It states that the one being is just a "MYSTERY"! And, I may add a very stupid one since if they were one being, why would one pray to Himself!!!

Everyone can easily see what you guys are doing here! You are trying to make the doctrine of the trinity sound like it is rational and not a mystery, but that is a lie! It is a mystery and it is totally irrational!!!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine {but will invent unsound mysteries}...and shall be turned unto fables."

gdemetz proves he has no clue what the Trinity teaches

Heresies

•Adoptionism - God granted Jesus powers and then adopted him as a Son.
•Albigenses - Reincarnation and two gods: one good and other evil.
•Apollinarianism - Jesus divine will overshadowed and replaced the human.
•Arianism - Jesus was a lesser, created being.
•Docetism - Jesus was divine, but only seemed to be human.
•Donatism - Validity of sacraments depends on character of the minister.
•Gnosticism - Dualism of good and bad and special knowledge for salvation.
•Kenosis - Jesus gave up some divine attributes while on earth.
•Modalism - God is one person in three modes.
•Monarchianism - God is one person.
•Monophysitism - Jesus had only one nature: divine.
•Nestorianism - Jesus was two persons.
•Patripassionism - The Father suffered on the cross
•Pelagianism - Man is unaffected by the fall and can keep all of God's laws.
•Semi-Pelagianism - Man and God cooperate to achieve man's salvation.
•Socinianism - Denial of the Trinity. Jesus is a deified man.
•Subordinationism - The Son is lesser than the Father in essence and or attributes.
•Tritheism - the Trinity is really three separate gods.

http://carm.org/heresies

[_gdemetz]

Mittens, you have already proved that you don't know what you are doing here, and you are just making it worse and looking dumber all the time. I quoted you two separate definitions of the Trinity belief, which stated they were ONE BEING"!!!!!!! So, if you don't believe that, then you don't believe in the trinity in the traditional sense the way it has been defined!!! It's that simple! If you don't believe in it, good; then you have a belief that is more in line with Mormon doctrine!!!

[_Mittens]

Monarchianism - God is one person.

Modalism - God is one person in three modes.

Notice how evangelics consider your difinition of the Trinity as heresy

[_gdemetz]

Mittens, give it up! You are looking worse and worse! How many times do I have to give you sites which clearly define the common concept of the trinity as "THREE GODS IN ONE BEING"!!! If you are any other person does not believe in that concept, then great! I don't believe in it either! However, don't try to be dishonest and state that that is not what the concept is!!!!!!!

[_Mittens]

Here's another renown Evangelic explaining the Trinity, You must be brained washed thinking being means person and not Godhead

http://youtu.be/Y4AN2hHk7ws

[_gdemetz]

I'm not brainwashed Mittens! Why in the heck do you think that they referred to it as a mystery! ONE BEING IS NOT A GODHEAD MITTENS! You need to face the truth and stop trying to make lame excuses with U tube apologetics!!!!!!!

[_Drifting]

I'm not brainwashed Mittens! Why in the heck do you think that they referred to it as a mystery! ONE BEING IS NOT A GODHEAD MITTENS! You need to face the truth and stop trying to make lame excuses with U tube apologetics!!!!!!!

Noun
godhead (plural godheads)
divinity or godhood, divine essence or nature
God
(rare) any deity or idol
an admired or influential person or entity
2007 June, Gregory Mone, “Invention: A New Breed of Mouse”, Popular Science, volume 270, number 6, page 56: 
He pauses, as if hesitant to mention the godhead of computer design aloud, and adds, "Maybe even something Apple would be interested in."

And so it would seem that Godhead can indeed be "ONE BEING".....

[Guest]

Mittens, you, Albion, and Nipper are just dancing around the issue of "one Being"! Wikepedia defines the Trinity concept very clearly and correctly, and it is not what you guys are trying to dance around! It states that the one being is just a "MYSTERY"! And, I may add a very stupid one since if they were one being, why would one pray to Himself!!!

Everyone can easily see what you guys are doing here! You are trying to make the doctrine of the trinity sound like it is rational and not a mystery, but that is a lie! It is a mystery and it is totally irrational!!!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine {but will invent unsound mysteries}...and shall be turned unto fables."

You are the one just dancing around. Accept the fact that man cannot define GOD. The Mormon Box is not big enough... For the time will come in the last days when man will not continue in sound doctrine but will write and add new scriptures, exalt false prophets, and define doctrines to suit their social order.

[_LittleNipper]

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To accomplish that, Christ emptied Himself and so didn't know everything as a maturing individual and relied on God the Father to then reveal what Jesus needed to do/know as God the Father allowed it to happen.

got a scripture reference for this conclusion?...especially the episodes around Him as a "maturing individual"

Philippians 2:7 >>


New International Version (©1984)
but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,

English Standard Version (©2001)
but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

International Standard Version (©2008)
Instead, poured out in emptiness, a servant's form did he possess, a mortal man becoming. In human form he chose to be,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But he stripped himself and took the form of a Servant and was in the form of the children of men, and was found in fashion as a man.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Instead, he emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, by becoming like other humans, by having a human appearance.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

American King James Version
But made himself of no reputation, and took on him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

American Standard Version
but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men;

Douay-Rheims Bible
But emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and in habit found as a man.

Darby Bible Translation
but emptied himself, taking a bondman's form, taking his place in the likeness of men;

English Revised Version
but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men;

Webster's Bible Translation
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Weymouth New Testament
Nay, He stripped Himself of His glory, and took on Him the nature of a bondservant by becoming a man like other men.

World English Bible
but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.

Young's Literal Translation
but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men having been made,

[_subgenius]

Heresies
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•Tritheism - the Trinity is really three separate gods.

http://carm.org/heresies

Mittens you might be a heretic

You have no idea what the Trinity Teaches since it claims three separate and distinct persons who represent the One God.
ok, 3 separate and distinct....But enter your TRITHEISM here
the Trinitarian platform contains three planks:...(2) the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God
yep, three separate GODS is what you wrote. You did not write, The Father, The Son, and the HS compose God...nope you singled out each one as being distinct and each one as being God. How can all three be necessary to "make up" God yet Jesus be God as well? If it takes all three to compose God then neither of them alone can be God....thus to worship Jesus would be in error?
At best you are heretic of the MODALISM flavor but since you worship God, and worship Jesus, but do not worship the Spirit you are likely some new age hybrid-heretic (with eco-boost).

but your larger crime is seen by how you seriously consider that i none hand you can say that three is one and one is actually three with a straight face.

But hey, as soon as the Creed is evidenced in the scriptures i will be convinced that you are not promoting a bipolar, schizophrenic God.