Mormons discover that Obama is Black, seriously

[_lulu]

Ancestry.com researchers in Provo (they could be Tibetian Buddhists for all I know) are presenting evidence that an ancestor of Obama's mother was an enslaved African-American in the 1600's.

Now, if they could prove he's an American.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/us/ob ... .html?_r=1

[_bcspace]

What matters most is Obama has yet to provide any reasonable level of certification that he's a natural born citizen whereas McCain and Romney have because they are held to a different standard. The soft bigotry and racism going on and espoused by the Left is that because Obama is black he should be held to a lower standard. Same applies to things like voter ID. The Left believes that somehow, blacks are not as capable as whites in obtaining a driver's license. The only substantial racism left in America exists only on the Left.

[_Kishkumen]

Yes, clearly his long-form birth certificate is not proof that he is a natural born citizen.

Geez, can you be any more insane?

[_Bond James Bond]

What matters most is Obama has yet to provide any reasonable level of certification that he's a natural born citizen whereas McCain and Romney have because they are held to a different standard. The soft bigotry and racism going on and espoused by the Left is that because Obama is black he should be held to a lower standard. Same applies to things like voter ID. The Left believes that somehow, blacks are not as capable as whites in obtaining a driver's license. The only substantial racism left in America exists only on the Left.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... g-form.pdf

[_Kishkumen]

I think we should promote this equally nonsensical BS, just for giggles.

Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen
Mitt's father, George Romney, was born in Mexico and was a Mexican citizen. There's no indication that George Romney was ever naturalized as a U.S. Citizen and under Mexican law, George Romney was a Mexican citizen, regardless of whether or not he had two U.S. citizen parents at birth.

According to Mexican law, even the children of Mexican citizens are considered citizens of Mexico. When Mitt Romney was born, he acquired dual-citizenship as both a U.S. and Mexican citizen.

Therefore under Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and ineligible for the office of President.

Lawsuits must be filed immediately in order to prevent Romney from becoming the GOP nominee or taking the oath of office if he's elected President.

[_Bond James Bond]

I think we should promote this equally nonsensical BS, just for giggles.

Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen
Mitt's father, George Romney, was born in Mexico and was a Mexican citizen. There's no indication that George Romney was ever naturalized as a U.S. Citizen and under Mexican law, George Romney was a Mexican citizen, regardless of whether or not he had two U.S. citizen parents at birth.

According to Mexican law, even the children of Mexican citizens are considered citizens of Mexico. When Mitt Romney was born, he acquired dual-citizenship as both a U.S. and Mexican citizen.

Therefore under Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and ineligible for the office of President.

Lawsuits must be filed immediately in order to prevent Romney from becoming the GOP nominee or taking the oath of office if he's elected President.

It's true. Here's a photo of Mitten's birth certificate.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... e/257838/#

[_zeezrom]

Finally we come to it: birth certificate anachronisms. It is the A word that apologists love to talk about.

[_Kishkumen]

Check out this stunning reasoning:

The Mitt Romney family sued Mexico after using it as a safe haven when they left the United States to flee polygamy laws
by Dee Dee Garcia Blase on Jul. 17, 2012

Did you know that Mitt Romney’s family sued Mexico after using it as a safe haven when they left the United States to flee polygamy laws and religious prosecution?

Indeed, suing Mexico after using it as a safe haven put the Romney family on solid financial footing.

In my view, Mitt Romney is no person of Mexican-descent. A Mexican family will not sue Mexico after using it as a safe haven. When the Mexican Revolution broke out, Romney’s family fled that, too, and went back to the United States. The Romney family did not help with the Mexican Revolution, nor did they stand their ground and help the new found safe haven. Why does it appear that when the tough gets going, the Romney family has a history of fleeing not only the United States — but Mexico, too? This isn’t the only war that was dodged by the Romney family, because Mitt Romney also dodged the draft during the Vietnam War era, and I see a troubling pattern.

For the record, despite what the Romney family says, nobody “forced” them out of Mexico. If the Romney family really wanted to — they could have stayed their ground and fought for what was right.

From the Boston Globe:

After fleeing the Mexican revolution, Mitt Romney’s grandfather, Gaskell lost his home and possessions. While living in Salt Lake City, Gaskell Romney ran for County Commissioner ….. Gaskell sued Mexico for the loss of his property and, in 1938, was awarded damages of $9,163. Half of the money went to his son, George Romney, putting the family on a solid financial footing.

Question: Why did the Romney family leave the United States?

Answer: The Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act which was a law designed against polygamy caused the Romney family to leave the United States.

According to The Blaze:

Miles Park Romney was Mitt’s great grandfather, who fled the United States and crossed into Mexico in 1885 to escape religious persecution. There he helped build the Mormon enclave of Colonia Juarez in Chihuahua.

In other words, Miles Park Romney used Mexico as a safe haven when fleeing polygamy laws here in the United States so that later Mexico could be sued by Gaskell Romney.

From the SRE of México:

Twenty-seven years after Miles fled from U.S. government agents and took refuge in Mexico, the Romney family was back in the United States. …. the U.S. government, which had once chased Miles to Mexico due to his polygamy, now welcomed the Romneys and other Mormons to the United States. Congress established a $100,000 relief fund that enabled the Romneys and other Mormon exiles to receive food and lodging. … the case of Gaskell Romney v. United States of Mexico was finalized in Salt Lake City in 1938. Gaskell requested $26,753 in damages. He was awarded $9,163, court records show — a sizable amount in the post-Depression years. The records say that Gaskell was to give half of the award to his son George, helping to set the family on firmer financial footing in the United States.

This migrating, immigration story gets more interesting, because after Mitt Romney made an alliance with Kris Kobach (anti-immigrant crusader who referred to the DREAM Act as a nightmare), we see the nativists stating:

Miles Romney was prosecuted in 1885 under the Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act (for polygamy). This act allowed certain citizenship rights to be stripped of those convicted.

Were United States citizenship rights threatened under the Edmunds Anti-Polgyamy Act?

Absolutely.

On 1 December 1879, President Rutherford B. Hayes stated:

The law for the suppression of this offense was enacted with great unanimity by Congress more than seventeen years ago, but has remained until recently a dead letter in the Territory of Utah, because of the peculiar difficulties attending its enforcement. The opinion widely prevailed among the citizens of Utah that the law was in contravention of the constitutional guaranty of religious freedom. This objection is now removed. The Supreme Court of the United States has decided the law to be within the legislative power of Congress and binding as a rule of action for all who reside within the Territories. There is no longer any reason for delay or hesitation in its enforcement. It should be firmly and effectively executed. If not sufficiently stringent in its provisions, it should be amended; and in aid of the purpose in view I recommend that more comprehensive and more searching methods for preventing as well as punishing this crime be provided. If necessary to secure obedience to the law, the enjoyment and exercise of the rights and privileges of citizenship in the Territories of the United States may be withheld or withdrawn from those who violate or oppose the enforcement of the law on this subject.

Indeed women movements have a history of being instrumental encouraging laws just as the Liberal Ladies Anti-Polygamy Society did with the Edmunds Act, and women today continue to be a force to be reckoned with.

Was the Romney family U.S. citizenship stripped when they left the United States?

No one knows yet. And Romney is already reluctant to produce tax return papers even though he happily asks immigrants for their papers.

What we do know is that Mitt Romney has harsh views of immigration when he proudly accepted the endorsement of Kris Kobach. Like his fellow Republican via Russell Pearce (who sponsored the SB 1070 law in Arizona) — Romney supports self-deportation laws, too.

The Romney family wants you to believe they were forced from Mexico due to the Mexican Revolutionary War, but what they are not telling you is that they used Mexico as a safe haven — then sued them even though they collected a United States government handout. For the record and according to the Univserity [sic] of Utah media, polygamy was illegal in Mexico, too, but they were tolerant.

So explain to me again how the Romney family won the lawsuit against Mexico again?

Indeed it is correct to say that the U.S. Government bailed out the Romney family in their time of need when Congress voted $100,000 for Mormon transportation and relief (which calculates to approximately 2.5 million dollars today). Yet, this is strange to hear considering Mitt Romney saying he was not concerned with the very poor.

Abusador is a word Mexican-Americans are using to describe Mitt Romney, because we see a pattern of abuse that ranges from Bain Capital to the very poor and voiceless.

[_Kishkumen]

It's true. Here's a photo of Mitten's birth certificate.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... e/257838/#

And here I thought George Romney was a man of integrity. He was trying to become America's first Mexico-born president!

[_zeezrom]

Lol