La Trahison Des Clercs in the Fulness of Times

[_Bob Loblaw]

You know, it's just amazing that MsJack's smear campaign worked when it's so self-evident from her Schrvyer/misogynist thread that Schvyer didn't say anything offensive.

Or that the gift of discernment didn't help the Bretheren see through this anti-Mormon ruse designed to suppress Schyver's powerful defense of the restored gospel.

Something had to be done to silence an important voice.

[_Kishkumen]

You're speculating, and blowing smoke out a major orifice I will here not mention.

Are you too delicate to use the word?

Jack initiated her attack on Will publicly, and that's all you know. Bradford was clearly working behind the scenes against both Will and the entire Book of Abraham apologetic project (so long as it was an actual apologetic project) for quite a while - behind the scenes. He sprung his trap while Danial Peterson was thousands of mile away.

The trap was Daniel Peterson's own failure to listen to his superior. So, if there is a trap it is an intractable employee's giant ego preventing him from listening to his superior. No doubt Peterson was surprised when the ticking time-bomb in his own psyche finally exploded on his career.

Uh...no, your prevarication and tendentious shilling for the posse - of which you an integral part - is puerile, fallacious, and reeks of unrestrained bigotry and a vendetta mentality towards that which you cannot mount substantive intellectual argument and with regard to you are consumed with emotion based hatred.

Argue against what, a conspiracy theory that has yet to be presented?

The punks in this posse are headed for a day of reckoning. Little literary terrorists and character demolishers who can't debate the issues in the open area of ideas, who hide behind screen names, lie to protect each other from exposure and responsibility, and the whine and bray when their victims push back.

As though throwing away one's PhD training on witch hunts were a noble enterprise.

Right.

[_Bob Loblaw]

We should make a list of the conspirators.

We know about MsJack and John Dehlin and Gerald Bradford. Schryver has named Brian Hauglid and David Bokovoy as "traitors." Who else?

Chris Smith just has to be involved. He's a notorious anti-Mormon.
Richard Bushman because he invited Chris Smith to BYU.
Darth J because he was angry that Droopy knows more about karate than he does.
Buffaloblaw because he would do that kind of thing.
Kishkumen because he would too.
Blixa because she is a Marxist.
Droopy because he is too.
Mike Reed because he just looks evil.
Runtu because he does too.
John Larsen because he doesn't post here much anymore so he must be spending all his time trying to destroy the MI.
Marlin Jensen because he has it in for Will.
Daniel Peterson because he was conveniently out of the country when all this went down. Et tu, Daniel?

[_Bob Loblaw]

Has anyone considered that all of this may be an elaborate hoax pulled off by William himself to discredit the MI? If not why would someone who was trying to get in the good graces of the GAs and the MI casually denigrate women and otherwise behave like an ass? Why would that person deny what everyone can see instead of humbly apologizing? And why would that person continue to rail against an unnamed conspiracy and accuse BYU professors of plagiarism?

There are only two ways this makes sense: it's a big hoax, or Schryver is just that damned crazy.

[_Tarski]

yet another hysterical rant featuring "the left"--the bogey in every closet.

[_Blixa]

yet another hysterical rant featuring "the left"--the bogey in every closet.

Yep. It's sad to see how distant a second Mormonism places compared to his real religion.

[_Bob Loblaw]

Yep. It's sad to see how distant a second Mormonism places compared to his real religion.

I think they call that a gospel hobbyhorse.

[_Kishkumen]

Has anyone considered that all of this may be an elaborate hoax pulled off by William himself to discredit the MI? If not why would someone who was trying to get in the good graces of the GAs and the MI casually denigrate women and otherwise behave like an ass? Why would that person deny what everyone can see instead of humbly apologizing? And why would that person continue to rail against an unnamed conspiracy and accuse BYU professors of plagiarism?

There are only two ways this makes sense: it's a big hoax, or Schryver is just that f*****g crazy.

I pick "B." And anyone with a lick of sense would have dropped that lead balloon a long, long time ago, kinda like someone in the College of Religious Education at BYU did.

[_Droopy]

Droopy ~ It's Bridget Jack Jeffries. If you're going to smear me, at least get my name right.

And my husband's last name is Meyers, not "Myers."

I'm not smearing you. Unlike most here, I'm not into that. All I've ever pointed out is that your misogyny charge against Will was manufactured from a preexisting feminist ideological template in which the bar for such a charge, as in other cultural Marxist sects, is so low that one can quite easily step over it without any perceptible effort. The claim had no basis in any actual documentary evidence or posting history you ever produced.

That's all.

Everyone, from Wade to myself and Will, admitted there had been some over the top ad hominem language in a tiny, disparate part of Will's long posting history. That's where it should have ended. But the agenda had, and has, nothing to do with any of that, as any honest broker familiar with the whole episode could reasonably attest.

[_Droopy]

Are you too delicate to use the word?

No, just too mature.