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_mercyngrace
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Re: A message for TAO

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Cicero wrote:
mercyngrace wrote:I think Bob was only thread banned. His member page doesn't say banned.


That's correct and I didn't mean to insinuate otherwise. I guess I should have said "I am still stunned that they banned Bob instead of just taking down the thread."

However, based on his one post here, I don't think you'll see Bob over there anytime soon unless cooler heads prevail upon him to come back.


Bob has been increasingly outspoken since the shakeup at the Maxwell Institute. He has made numerous comments calling for toned down rhetoric, especially from those making negative remarks about Gerald Bradford. It may be that distancing himself from the crowd over this issue in the last few weeks sounded a death knell that we have only heard publicly today.

I would be surprised if any of the long time regulars reached out to him but I could be misreading the situation.
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Re: A message for TAO

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mercyngrace wrote:Bob has been increasingly outspoken since the shakeup at the Maxwell Institute. He has made numerous comments calling for toned down rhetoric, especially from those making negative remarks about Gerald Bradford. It may be that distancing himself from the crowd over this issue in the last few weeks sounded a death knell that we have only heard publicly today.

I would be surprised if any of the long time regulars reached out to him but I could be misreading the situation.


Which means that place will become even more of a MADhouse. Well, have fun over there if you can survive. It sounds like they have already accused you of being a sockpuppet for one of the regular posters on this board.
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Re: A message for TAO

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cwald wrote:All I want is an even playing field.

I can't see that ever happening. Even if I hadn't been banned (after my one and only post), I doubt I would have stuck around once I saw the way that forum is managed.

Do I hold the record for the fewest posts over there before getting banned? :smile:
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Re: A message for TAO

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I'm thread banned.

Son of bitch...I didn't say anything about Will....all I did was make a comment about the trash talk directed towards m&G. A one word posts, "wow."

I guess they will moderate any type of voice that is in opposition...

What about Cal? Are they going to thread ban her too?
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Re: A message for TAO

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cwald wrote:I'm thread banned.

Son of bitch...I didn't say anything about Will....all I did was make a comment about the trash talk directed towards m&G. A one word posts, "wow."

So...maybe you now hold the record for being banned for the shortest post ("wow"). Just one word? Crazy!
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I am not thread banned yet. I don't know if that is a good thing...
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Re: A message for TAO

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Valentinus wrote:I am not thread banned yet. I don't know if that is a good thing...


Keep participating here and you may not stay in their good graces very long. To be clear, I hope you keep participating here.
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Re: A message for TAO

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Cicero wrote:Which means that place will become even more of a MADhouse. Well, have fun over there if you can survive. It sounds like they have already accused you of being a sockpuppet for one of the regular posters on this board.


Oh Cicero, I stopped having fun there a long time ago. :cool:

I had stopped posting there in mid-May until I saw cwald signed up and was getting called a troll. I made a handful of posts attempting to validate his sincerity and then left again until I started repping posts on Will's thread. You saw where that led.

From the moment I hit it off with the likes of Consiglieri, Senator, Mortal Man, and David B, among others, I was typecast. That was a couple of years ago. It doesn't matter who I really am or what I believe, my narrative on that board has already been written.
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Re: A message for TAO

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themessenger wrote:Tao, I sent you a pm on MDDB warning you that public criticism of William Schryver would lead to you being labeled an ant-mormon or a cohort to anti-mormons, you responded that you did not think that was likely.


I still hold by that.

Did you see what William labeled Calmoriah for her criticism of his behaviour? Yes, he in essence labeled her a confederate to anti-mormons.


William isn't the mods though.

I was banned from the board this morning because I too, dared post criticism of Williams behaviour.


I didn't see your posts, so I can't tell why they banned you. But you might try emailing them.

And here is the lesson you need to learn TAO, Juliann Reynold who posts a Juliann on MDDB owns or is directly involved in the administration of MDDB.


She posts rather rarely. I have no idea how she is involved in administration.

You need to know that she will what amounts to totalitarianism to silence anyone who dares to question so called "Apologist". This totalitarianism as serves as a "chilling effect" to send a message to others that they better not dare speak out against any so called Apologist.

You can find in closed threads that Nemsis (Juliann or DanG) do not believe in living a higher standard. Nemisis exact words are "this is not Relief Society or Elders Quorum" and thus she and he expose their Weekend Warrior mentality.


Where did Nemesis say this, and why do you draw that conclusion?

Rather than hold everyone accountable to a higher standard, they lower everyone to the most base standard.


I don't really see them doing this. While I haven't liked all of the decisions of the mods, I don't see them doing this.

A warning about FAIR, while FAIR can provide some information, FAIR relyies on upon its own members interpretations, thus FAIR relies on the philosophy of men mingled with scripture.


Of course. Both sides mingle the philosophy of men with scripture and logic. But you should know, there is no such thing as thought without interpretation. There is no such thing as an 'uninterpreted' scriptural verse. There is some that are bent more than others... but all of them have interpretation.

Take a look at Daniel Peterson's own word:


He was right. That's what apologetics is. That's what all persuasive debate is.

Selek1, jwhitlock, Wade Englund a.k.a. wenglund, will be the first and loudest to label anyone an anti-mormon if that person dares to question anything a so called apologist types/speaks/prints.


Selek, is a bit like that, yes. But, selek is also willing to admit his mistakes, and back down from claims if honestly shown he is wrong, or if shown that perhaps this could be said a bit ligher. He's fine.

jwhitlock I don't know enough about.

Wade I don't know much about either, but he seems to be decently respectful in his reponses, and I don't recall him using 'anti-mormon' much.

It is standard procedure over there, disagree with the party line = anti-mormonism. Good luck to you.


I'll respectfully disagree, but thanks.

Best of Wishes,
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Re: A message for TAO

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Cicero wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:Outside a few (Pahoron, DCP & Wade) they will ban any one for anything and will not explain why.


That's why I was so amazed that they banned Bob Crockett. He has been an apologist for a long time and is also a prominent lawyer. I'm still stunned that they would ban him and not Will.


He isn't banned right now... I just checked his profile =p.
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