Brian Hale's FAIR Presentation on Sexual Polyandry
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I was really hopeful that Brian Hales had come up with some pretty good evidence because I have always found Joseph's polyandrous relationships troubling. (Well Faith shattering actually)
The rules around family are quite tight in moral terms. I was taught by the church from my youth that adultery was wrong. I was taught the story of David who sinned in the case of Uriah's wife. I was taught the 10 commandments for goodness sake.
Then I find that the behaviour of Joseph has been covered up, hidden, not emphasized, whatever you want to call it. Edited to add, that 'behaviour' doesn't adequately describe what Joseph did. Not only was he committing adultery, he was using 'revelation', and 'God' to justify it and to manipulate others.
I've just read the article that Fence Sitter referred to by Quinn, and it blows Brian's efforts out of the water. There is just too much evidence to the contrary.
I don't understand how Quinn can accept it and still maintain his belief in Joseph's prophethood.
I can't.
On Emma, it is interesting to note that Bidamon was also an adulterer and it was something that she could accept and condone. When one thinks of it, she had many years to get used to it.
The rules around family are quite tight in moral terms. I was taught by the church from my youth that adultery was wrong. I was taught the story of David who sinned in the case of Uriah's wife. I was taught the 10 commandments for goodness sake.
Then I find that the behaviour of Joseph has been covered up, hidden, not emphasized, whatever you want to call it. Edited to add, that 'behaviour' doesn't adequately describe what Joseph did. Not only was he committing adultery, he was using 'revelation', and 'God' to justify it and to manipulate others.
I've just read the article that Fence Sitter referred to by Quinn, and it blows Brian's efforts out of the water. There is just too much evidence to the contrary.
I don't understand how Quinn can accept it and still maintain his belief in Joseph's prophethood.
I can't.
On Emma, it is interesting to note that Bidamon was also an adulterer and it was something that she could accept and condone. When one thinks of it, she had many years to get used to it.
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Re: Brian Hale's FAIR Presentation on Sexual Polyandry
Hasa Diga Eebowai wrote:A few people have said the same to me. Everytime I go to check if it is still there I expect them to have deleted it already and everytime I'm shocked by the fact that they still have it on their site.
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Hasa Diga Eebowai
I saved a copy for posterity. I also saved a PDF copy of Brian's paper. That thing will kill far more testimonies than it will save.
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Well, there are some bombshells in the Quinn report. WOW! Fresh stuff, guys!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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I want a copy of the Quinn article!!!!
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Just me, It is brilliant.
Well done Quinn.
Well done Quinn.
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Mary wrote:Just me, It is brilliant.
Well done Quinn.
It really is.
Does anyone else really really wanna see the journals the church has under lock & key? I want to sooooo baaaaad!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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Quinn's response is brilliant. So much for those who say "but where are the children?" To deny that Joseph had sex with most, if not all of his wives, one would have to be an idiot.
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