If You Could Spend a Day in the Vault . . .

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Re: If You Could Spend a Day in the Vault . . .

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Cicero wrote: For me, I would start with William Clayton's letters and journals.

You can order extracts from William Clayton's journal during the Nauvoo era here (it was leaked and the Tanners were unsuccessfully sued trying to keep them from publishing it):
http://www.utlm.org/booklist/titles/cla ... _ub038.htm

And here's a history of how this journal was leaked:
http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no47.htm (scroll down to "RESTRICTED CHURCH DOCUMENT LEAKS OUT")
http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no48.htm[/quote]

Cicero wrote:Thanks Madison. I don't think Ehat and Cook were given access to the full set.

I think Ehat was given full access when he wrote his thesis for BYU back in the early 80's (he was a graduate student there), but I might be mistaken.
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Madison54 wrote:I think Ehat was given full access when he wrote his thesis for BYU back in the early 80's (he was a graduate student there), but I might be mistaken.


I asked Lyndon Cook directly myself whether he was given access to the full set (this was in 1997) and he just smiled at me. I didn't push him on it since I was in his class at the time.
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Cicero wrote:
Madison54 wrote:I think Ehat was given full access when he wrote his thesis for BYU back in the early 80's (he was a graduate student there), but I might be mistaken.


I asked Lyndon Cook directly myself whether he was given access to the full set (this was in 1997) and he just smiled at me. I didn't push him on it since I was in his class at the time.

I'd have to go back and read up on this incident again, but I don't think Ehat was working with Cook when this happened. I need to refresh my memory though!
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Joseph Smith's journals.

I would love to get into Community of Christ archives as well. I'm sure I would have a better shot at that than the First Presidency vault.
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According to Doctor Scratch the following:

"What's In The Secret Church Vault?"

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_chur ... 1493336267

Incomplete List of Items in the First Presidency Vaults

Printed Works:

An Address by Way of an Abridged Account and Journal of My Life, Lyman Wight
An Address to Americans, James Mulholland
Almanacs (1859, 1860, 1861, 1863, 1864), William W. Phelps
The Amateur, Ogden, Utah, YMMIA
An Appeal to the American People, Sidney Rigdon
Articles of Association for the United Order (1870 & 1874)
Book of Mormon (Various Editions, including 1830)
Book of One Thousand Marks and Brands, William Clayton
Book of the Law of the Lord, James J. Strang
The California Star
Calumny Refuted and the Truth Defended, John Taylor
Celestial Marriage, and the Plurality of Wives, Jesse Haven
Central Route, The Emigrant’s Guide, Thomas B. H. Stenhouse
Circular to Bishop Edward Hunter, First Presidency
The City Charter of Nauvoo, Illinois
The City of the Mormons, Henry Caswall
A Collection of Sacred Hymns (1835, 1844, etc.)
A Concise History of the Mormon Battalion, Daniel Tyler
Constitution of the State of Deseret
A Correct Account of the Murder of Generals Joseph and Hyrum Smith, William M.
Daniels
Death of the Prophets Joseph and Hyrum Smith, John Gooch
Delusions..., Alexander Campbell
Deseret Almanac (1851, 1852, 1853, 1854, etc.,), William W. Phelps
A Dialogue between Joe Smith and the Devil, Parley P. Pratt
The Diamond, James J. Strang
A Dissertation on Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream, William I. Appleby
Doctrine and Covenants (1835, etc.)
Book of Commandments
Document Containing the Correspondence, Orders, &c. in Relation to the Disturbances
with the Mormons
Document Showing the Testimony Given Before the Judge of the Fifth Judicial Circuit
Elder’s Journal
The Evening and Morning Star
Evidence Taken on the Trial of Mr. Smith
Evidences in Proof of the Book of Mormon, Charles B. Thompson
The Far West: Or, A Tour Beyond the Mountains, Edmund Flagg
Y Farw Wedi Ei Chyfodi Yn Fyw, Dan Jones
A Few Plain Facts, George J. Adams
Frontier Guardian
General Courses and Distance from G.S.L. City to Fort Limhi, Jesse W. Fox
1847 General Epistle from the Council of the Twelve Apostles
General Joseph Smith’s Appeal to the Green Mountain Boys
General Smith’s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States
The Gospel Reflector
Governor’s Message – Brigham Young (1850, 1851, etc.)
A Grammar of the Hebrew Language, Moses Stuart
He That Hath Ears to Hear, Orson Hyde
History of the Late Persecution Inflicted by the State of Missouri upon the Mormons,
Parley P. Pratt
History of the Persecutions, Charles W. Wandell
A History of the Priesthood, Benjamin Winchester
An Interesting Account of Several Remarkable Visions, Orson Pratt
James J. Strang, Weighed in the Balance, Reuben Miller
Journal of Discourses
Heber C. Kimball Journal
Late Persecution of the Church, Parley P. Pratt
Edinburgh Branch
The Latter Day Saints, A Poem, Omer
The Latter-day Saints’ Emigrants’ Guide, William Clayton
Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate
A Lecture on the Authenticity & Scriptural Character of the Book of Mormon, George J.
Adams
Letters of Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps
List of Recorded Brands, William Clayton
Manifesto from William S. Godbe and E.L.T. Harrison
Hebrew Grammar, James Seixas
Marks and Brands, William Clayton
Melchizedek & Aaronic Herald – Isaac Sheen
The Millenium, Parley P. Pratt
The Mormon
Mormonism: Embracing the origin…, James Hunt
Mormonism Unvailed, Eber D. Howe
Mormonism Unveiled, Parley P. Pratt
The Mormons in Illinois, G. W. Westbrook
Narrative of Some of the Proceedings of the Mormons, Catherine Lewis
A Narrative of the Life of Solomon Mack
Nauvoo Expositor
Nauvoo Neighbor
The Olive Branch
The Only Way to be Saved, Lorenzo Snow
Oration Delivered by Mr. Sidney Rigdon
Ordinances of the City of Nauvoo
Ordinances, Passed by the Legislative Council of Great Salt Lake City
Ordinances Passed by the General Assembly of the State of Deseret
‘Pamphlet book’ - George Albert Smith
‘Pamphlet book of miscellaneous pamphlets owned by Wilford Woodruff
Pearl of Great Price (1851, etc)
Plain Facts, Showing the Falsehood and Folly of Rev. C.S. Bush, Parley P. Pratt
Political and Religious Detector, Noah Packard
Proclamation to the People of the Coasts and Islands of the Pacific, Parley P. Pratt
The Prophet
Prophetic Almanac (1845, 1846), Orson Pratt
Prophetic Controversy, James S. Strang
The Reflector
Le Reflecteur
Reply to Shall We Believe in Mormon, Charles W. Wandell
The Return
Various Revelations
Revised Laws of the Nauvoo Legion
Route from Liverpool to Great Salt Lake City, James Linforth
St. Louis Luminary
Edward L. Sloan works
The Seer
A Short Account of a Shameful Outrage, Parley P. Pratt
A Small Selection of Choice Hymns, C. Merkley
Strictures, on Dr. I. Galland’s pamphlet, David W. Kilbourne
Synopsis of Phrenology, O.S. Fowler
Synopsis of the Holy Scriptures, Benjamin Winchester
Testimonies for the Truth, Benjamin Brown
Third General Epistle of the Presidency
Times and Seasons
To the Public, William Smith
A Treatise on the Fulness of the Everlasting Gospel, Moses Martin
A True and Descriptive Account of the Assassination of Joseph & Hiram Smith, Thomas
A. Lyne
Utah Territorial Library Catalogue
A Vocabulary of the Snake or Shoshone Dialect, Joseph A. Gebow
The Voice of the Captives, Assembled at Zarahemla
The Voice of Truth, Joseph Smith
A Voice of Warning and Proclamation to All, Francis Gladden Bishop
The Wasp
The Western Standard
Why the “Latter Day Saints” Marry a Plurality of Wives, Benjamin F. Johnson
The Wonderful Prophecies of Robert Nixon, Robert Nixon
A Word of Consolation to the Scattered Saints, Jason W. Briggs
Yankee Story, Hiram Bradley Clawson
Zion’s Panier

Written Records:

Alberta Temple Dedication Services
Missionary Blessing of Truman O. Angell
Arizona Temple Dedication Services
George Bean Report
Ezra T. Benson Missionary Blessing
Carson Valley Mission List of Missionaries
Council of Fifty Minutes and Notes
Elder’s Licenses and Record of Ordinations (Independence and Kirtland)
Elk Mountain Mission List of Missionaries
Excommunication Records
Far West List of Members
Far West Record
Female Subscriptions, Nauvoo
1893 First Presidency Minutes
First Presidency Office Journal
Various First Presidency Minutes
Flat Head Mission List of Missionaries
Garden Grove, Iowa, History
1855-1856 General Conference Minutes
Hawaiian Temple Dedication Services
Idaho Falls Temple Dedication Services
Kirtland, Ohio, Township Record and record of Livestock Ear Marks
Kirtland Stake Minutes
Las Vegas Mission List of Missionaries
Liverpool Office Emigration Record (1840-1854)
Logan Temple Dedication Services
Los Angeles Temple Dedication Services
Mormon Battalion Record (1846-1848)
Nauvoo, Ill., City Council Proceedings
Nauvoo, Ill., Deed Records
Nauvoo, Ill., List of Members
Nauvoo, Ill., Marriage Records
Nauvoo, Ill., Municipal Court Docket
Nauvoo, Ill., Schools
Nauvoo, Ill., Seventies License Record
Nauvoo, Ill., Trustee in Trust Tithing and Donation Record
Nauvoo, Ill., Trustee’s Land Book
Nauvoo High Council Minutes
Nauvoo Legion Minutes
Nauvoo Library and Literary Institute Minutes
Nauvoo Masonic Lodge Minutes
Nauvoo Relief Society Minutes
New Zealand Temple Dedication Services
Oakland Temple Dedication Services
Pioneer Emigration List
Pottawattamie High Council Minutes
St. George Temple Dedication Services
Salt Lake Stake High Council Minutes
Salt Lake Temple Dedication Services
Salt Lake Temple Annex Dedication Services
Swiss Temple Dedication Services
Teacher’s Quorum Minutes (Far West, Kirtland, and Nauvoo)
George A. Smith Letter Book (1854) [Included in Nauvoo Marriage Record Book]
Various other Temple Dedications

Manuscript Materials:

Adam-ondi-Ahman Plat
Affidavits on Joseph Smith and Plural Marriage
Arabic manuscript
Berlin Mission, Confidential Report, 1963-1966
Bible, photocopy of Bernhisel copy of Inspired Version manuscript
Bible, manuscript in Deseret Alphabet
Bible, Matthew, Chapter 24
Book of Commandments, Law and Covenants
Book of John Whitmer
Book of Mormon manuscript, Copyright, and Course Taken by Nephites
Book of Mormon manuscripts in Arabic, Armenian, Bulgarian, Deseret Alphabet, Dutch,
Finnish, Greek, Hebrew, Hindostanee (Urdu), Hungarian, Italian, Japanese,
Maori, Rumanian, Philippine (Ilicano Dialect), Russian, Slovak, Swedish,
Tongan, Turkish, Yugoslavian (Serbo-croatian)
Brands, Utah, manuscript, 1850
George Q. Cannon Journal [May have been moved]
George Q. Cannon letters (1871-1879)
Albert Carrington letter (1886)
Catechism for Children, by John Jaques, manuscript in Deseret Alphabet
Phebe Chase’s Temple apron
Church of the First-born of the Fulness of Times Minutes (1955)
City of Zion Plat
William Clayton letters (1869, 1871, 1874)
William Clayton’s manuscript for Emigrant’s Guide
Oliver Cowdery Account Books (1835-1836, 1839-1846)
The Hebrew Question, Oliver Cowdery
Oliver Cowdery Journal (1836)
Oliver Cowdery letter to Hyrum Smith (1831)
Oliver Cowdery Revelation (1829)
Warren A. Cowdery Ledgers and Cash Book (1816-1830)
Cypher Book (Telegraph Code Book)
State of Deseret Constitution (1849)
Deseret Alphabet (Punches used for printing)
Deseret First Book, first reader (Incomplete manuscript in Deseret Alphabet)
Deseret Phonetic Speller in Deseret Alphabet
Deseret Second Book, second reader, in Deseret Alphabet
Doctrine and Covenants, manuscript in Deseret Alphabet
Doctrine and Covenants, Kirtland Revelations
Doctrine and Covenants, Czechoslovak manuscript
Doctrine and Covenants (handwritten copies of revelations)
Documentary History of the Church, original manuscript
Various Dream Mine papers
Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar, and various manuscripts
Far West Missouri Plat
Fundamentalist Church Minutes (1951-1952)
John L. Ginn manuscript
Miles Goodyear map
Jacob Hamblin Journal and letters
Martin Harris, deeds and articles of agreement
Lansford W. Hastings map
Hebrew Grammar manuscript
John E. Hill’s manuscripts of hymns and tracts in Hungarian
Historian’s Office Journal (1858-1878)
Historical Notation manuscript (Guide for material used in compiling DHC, 1841-1857)
Orson Hyde manuscripts containing some sections of D&C
Orson Hyde Revelation (3/14/1846)
Independence, Missouri, Temple Plans
Indian Wars, manuscript by John L. Ginn
Inspired Version manuscript by James E. Talmage (cross referenced to Inspired Version)
List of Persons Driven from Jackson County, Missouri, in 1833
Andrew Jenson’s Temple garment
Kirtland, Ohio, Plat
Masonry Affidavits and article by William S. Paine
William McLellin Diary
Petition of Citizens of Carroll County, Missouri, 1838
John Moore’s Application to become a citizen, and trial in Bishop’s Court
Mormon Battalion Member List
Mountain Meadows Massacre manuscript, John L. Ginn
Nauvoo, Ill., Act to Incorporate the City (1840)
Nauvoo Municipal Court (impression on seal of wax, 1843)
L. John Nuttall Diary [May have been moved]
Obituary Notices of Distinguished Persons (1837-1872)
William S. Paine manuscript of “In Defense of Joseph Smith the Prophet”
Patriarchal Blessings, Vol. 2, Joseph Smith Sr., (includes transactions of the Twelve,
1835)
Pearl of Great Price, Book of Abraham manuscripts
Pearl of Great Price, Book of Moses manuscript
Pearl of Great Price, Egyptian manuscripts
LaMar Peterson’s manuscript for “Hearts Made Glad,” and his excommunication
minutes
William W. Phelps Journal (1835)
List of Original Pioneers
Various Portraits (Daguerreotype, tintype, ambrotype, and glass) of Old Tabernacle,
Temple Square, Joseph F. Smith, Isaac Hale, Polly Walworth Lambson, Joseph
Smith III, Eliza R. Snow, Charles E. Keetch, J.T. Ross, John W. Young, Nauvoo
Temple ruins, Brigham Young Jr., Robert Warner, Julia Earl Warner, John Smith,
Brigham Young, Emma and Bertha Howell Jenson, Mrs. W.C. Staines, Parley P.
Pratt, William Stewart Seeley, Lovina Smith Walker, Capt. James Brown, and
numerous unidentifiable persons
Parley P. Pratt’s Temple apron
George Reynolds letter (1888)
John W. Rigdon’s manuscript on the life story of his father, Sidney Rigdon
Brigham H. Roberts’ manuscripts of “Data of Verbal and Grammatical Errors in the
Book of Mormon,” “The Life Story of B. H. Roberts,” and “The Way, the Truth,
The Life”
Orrin Porter Rockwell, Affidavit by Milo Andrus (1934)
San Bernardino Ranch Deed (1857)
Paul G. Schettler’s Temple apron
Annie Smith letter in Deseret Alphabet (1869)
Hyrum Smith Journal (1838-1839)
Piece of Joseph Smith’s shirt and vest
Joseph Smith Journals (1832-1834, 1835-1836, 1839)
Joseph Smith Letter Book (1829-1835, 1838-1843)
Joseph Smith letters (1831, 1832, 1833, 1836, 1839-1844)
Joseph Smith petition of Saints to Congress of U.S. (1839)
Joseph Smith painting on tin
Joseph Smith Revelations (not included in D&C)
Joseph Smith wax seal (1844)
Joseph Smith’s “Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government” (1844)
Lucy Mack Smith’s manuscript of “Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith and His
Progenitors”
William Smith essay (notes written on Chamber’s Miscellany)
Eliza R. Snow’s Temple apron
Lorenzo Snow Revelations
James J. Strang’s 6/18/1844 letter (Purportedly from Joseph Smith)
John Taylor Diary [May have been moved]
Moses Thatcher’s High Council Trial Minutes (1897)
Twelve Apostle’s Minutes (1835, 1849-1870)
Utah Territory Census Statistics (1872)
Nelson Wheeler Whipple Journal
David Whitmer Testimony (1881)
Newel K. Whitney’s 1842 letter from Joseph Smith
Lyman Wight’s petition to the Honorable Senate of the United States
Frederick G. Williams’ manuscript on questions, characters on Book of Mormon, etc.
Wilford Woodruff’s handkerchief given to him by Joseph Smith
Wilford Woodruff Revelations
Charles S. Woodward letter and account of Dream Mine investigation
Brigham Young promissory note for $18.50 to be repaid in kitchen chairs (1830)
List of Zion’s Camp Members

Materials not listed in Manuscript Card Catalog:

Coins (Centennial coin issued by Reorganized Church; Deseret gold coins; Joseph
Smith’s coins [paid by Joseph just before martyrdom]; Joseph Smith penny
Coins (Dies for gold coins)
Coins from many countries
Council of Fifty Minutes, rolls (1845-1849, 1867-1868, 1880-1882)
Various Currencies (Kirtland Safety Society; Deseret currency; Deseret Currency
Association, cooperatives, mercantile institutions; Bank of Monroe; City of
Nauvoo; Nauvoo House Association; Nauvoo Legion; storehouse notes; Drover’s
Bank; First National Bank of Great Salt Lake City; GSLC Corp; Salt Lake City
Corp; Salt Lake City National Bank of Utah; Utah State National Bank; Utah
Territorial Mercantile Currency; ZCMI; etc.
Awards in the form of coins, issued by Deseret Agriculture & Manufacturing Society, etc.
Badges, for Pioneer Jubilee (1851); state celebrations; old folks day, etc.
Medals of Lorenzo Snow; Mormon Temple; Pony Express Diamond Jubilee; Brigham
Young, etc.
Obscene Material [I don’t know what this could be]
John Taylor Revelation (1882)
John Whitmer, photocopy of his original manuscript
Seer stones
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Want:

Celestial Marriage, and the Plurality of Wives, Jesse Haven
Evidence Taken on the Trial of Mr. Smith
Governor’s Message – Brigham Young (1850, 1851, etc.)
A History of the Priesthood, Benjamin Winchester
An Interesting Account of Several Remarkable Visions, Orson Pratt
Letters of Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps
Proclamation to the People of the Coasts and Islands of the Pacific, Parley P. Pratt
Why the “Latter Day Saints” Marry a Plurality of Wives, Benjamin F. Johnson
The Wonderful Prophecies of Robert Nixon, Robert Nixon
A Word of Consolation to the Scattered Saints, Jason W. Briggs

Council of Fifty Minutes and Notes
Elder’s Licenses and Record of Ordinations (Independence and Kirtland)
Far West List of Members
Far West Record


Okay, lots more. Everything.

But...why?

Andrew Jenson’s Temple garment
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The Seer Stones are the most fascinating thing on the list for me.
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GR33N wrote:The Seer Stones are the most fascinating thing on the list for me.


You mean Urim & Thummim...right?
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Obscene Material [I don’t know what this could be]

This should be published to all the world.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
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Wilford Woodruff Revelations

These should be canonized.
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